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darthrush said:

I must say that Lucasfilm surely did kind of screw up with how late in the game they decided to part with the directors and realize how serious the issues had gotten. But I think they are really bouncing back like no other studio could and the hiring of Ron Howard shows that. He is a calming presence with a great fx-heavy history of films and I think can do a great job of getting the movie to align more with Kasdan’s version of the script.

TLDR: Lucasfilm screwed up but is still a class act with saving these projects, making them great, and moving forward to give us a satisfying result (Rogue One).

Agreed wholeheartedly.

With the way many blockbuster are scheduled these days, the end of principle photography is hardly the 100% mark of filming. Yes, they were weeks away from the end of principle photography, but weeks of reshoots were already scheduled so I’d say they were only about halfway done. And if they weren’t getting enough coverage, they were even more behind than that. My guess is that is one of the major reasons they were sacked. If you don’t get enough coverage to start with, that increases the reshoots and increases the cost.

And GWTW had a major change of directors at the last minute. Director two (Victor Fleming) out of three got sole screen credit, but he didn’t finish the film. In this case I bet that Ron Howard is going to get considerable credit and is going to end up making the movie his way.

SilverWook said:

He certainly can shape the material that’s already been shot in the editing room. Almost like a fanedit. 😉

More like Ron Howard is the Director and Lord & Miller are second unit.

That’s not how the second unit works!

Haarspalter said:

canofhumdingers said:

[…] I was actually softening a little in my heart on my stance against the prequels. I was even vaguely considering watching them again at some point.

Oh boy, the “giving-the-Prequels-one-more-chance” thing. That comes in my mind from time to time too. I have not seen the Prequels for quite a while now in order to forget them as good as possible. But on the other hand, i’m saying to myself: Hey, they can’t be that bad? Let’s rewatch them completely open-minded. I did this two times in the past … but those movies are not getting better

I made the mistake a few years ago of falling into the “maybe I’ll give them just one more go” trap. No, they were worse than I remembered. After that I physically threw the DVDs in the trash so I may never again be tempted. My household is officially prequel-free.

I think Ron Howard is definitely a step in the right direction. I think it would be interesting to see what L&M had made in the end but not in a good way as I also didn’t really think in the first place that they were in any way a good pick to direct this movie.

The next step in the right direction (IMHO) would be to recast Emilia Clarke (probably not possible this far in though 😕 ). She was pretty good in the first 2-3 seasons of Game of Thrones but by 5-6 I nearly can’t stand her and I didn’t think much of her performance in the latest Terminator movie (Genisis? Didn’t think much of the movie either 😉 ). She could be alright for all I know but I find (at least for myself) that Star Wars works a lot better for establishing believable characters when you don’t know any of the actors which is a lot easier when you cast fairly unknown but competent or very promising actors. Seeing Samuel L Jackson (playing Samual L Jackson rather than his character) pop into scenes of Star Wars is quite the distraction that it pulls you out of the movie even when expecting it on repeat viewings.

.Val

^This.

Talk about going from the outhouse to the penthouse…

SilverWook said:

I can only imagine the frustration of fans who had seen Alec Guinness and Peter Cushing in other movies before Star Wars. 😉

Yeah I knew there’d be older people when watching SW for the first time that would know Alec Guiness from other films (have no idea really about Peter Cushing’s history) which is why I said specifically that it works best for me 😉 It’s an individual thing I guess but I found it’s one of the things that sets it apart from many other movies and really helps cement the characters into the story and universe in your mind when you initially only know those people as those characters.

For instance, Padme’s head of security that’s with her at the start of AOTC when they blow up her ship and kill her double - he’s originally from a show in Australia called “Water Rats” (it’s about Water Police) which the second I see him that’s all I can think of him in (even though I never really ever watched the show) and just pulls me out of the movie universe (probably doesn’t help that his performance is pretty wooden, it is the PT after all 😉 ).

.Val

lovelikewinter said:

Peter Cushing was in a lot of films before Star Wars, especially the Hammer Frankenstein and Dracula movies. He was one of those character actors who was in a lot of crap sometimes but always gave a good performance and treated the material he was in with respect, a la Christopher Lee. Its weird, but seeing him never takes me out of the movie. He’s that good.

Him and Alec are probably the exception for SW movies which is why even if people knew them from other movies it didn’t necessarily pull them out of the experience as they were actually great actors that portrayed the character well and made them believable to watch. This is why I fear for Emilia and Woody being in this movie…unless they are directed well and really pull of a good performance, it’s going to be hard not to just see Khaleesi from GOT and Woody from Zombieland joy riding in the Millenium Falcon…

.Val

ATMachine said:

IMO Samuel L. Jackson definitely plays Mace Windu as someone very different from himself. Unlike the real Samuel L. Jackson, Mace Windu is a boring, self-important, pompous, humorless idiot.

True, so in this case it’s just George’s fault again XD

“Say dark side again. I dare you, I double dare you! Say dark side one more time m**********r!” LOL!

.Val

lovelikewinter said:

stealthboy said:

Haarspalter said:

canofhumdingers said:

[…] I was actually softening a little in my heart on my stance against the prequels. I was even vaguely considering watching them again at some point.

Oh boy, the “giving-the-Prequels-one-more-chance” thing. That comes in my mind from time to time too. I have not seen the Prequels for quite a while now in order to forget them as good as possible. But on the other hand, i’m saying to myself: Hey, they can’t be that bad? Let’s rewatch them completely open-minded. I did this two times in the past … but those movies are not getting better

I made the mistake a few years ago of falling into the “maybe I’ll give them just one more go” trap. No, they were worse than I remembered. After that I physically threw the DVDs in the trash so I may never again be tempted. My household is officially prequel-free.

I almost bought Revenge of the Sith on blu-ray when the Steelbooks came out because I am a steelbook slut. Thank god I came to my senses before it was too late. Spent the money on a UK Firefly steelbook instead.

Why not the UK Steelbook of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy? Has great graphic design on it.

Ron Howard will Make Maz Great Again.

I don’t know why anyone would care what an actor had done before. Peter Cushing and Alec Guiness were legendary. Billy Dee Williams and Frank Oz were very well known. Samuel L. Jackson, Ewan McGregor, Natalie Portman and Liam Neeson were all stars in their own right. Woody Harleson has a wide body of work, as does Emilia Clark. Felicity Jones wasn’t exactly an unknown either. All the Star Wars films have their share of notable people in them. They are actors, they play roles. If they have solid careers, they played roles before and they will play roles after. You can’t get stuck on one performance. That isn’t how it works.

yotsuya said:

That’s not how acting works!

If you want to get stuck on previous roles, then Star Wars looks like this -
Frankenstein’s Monster (in a black suit and voiced by Lt. Lothar Zogg/Dr. Lou Rush) chases down Princess Lorna’s ship. Two droids escape with the stolen plan and end up with Corey Andrews (one of the more prolific bit parts he had). He chases the droids into the desert where they find Prince Faisal. After learning of his father and the force, and the death of his aunt and uncle. Corey takes Faisal to Mos Eisley where they hire Bob Falfa to take them to Alderaan. Meanwhile, Frankenstein’s Monster has taken Princess Lorna to the Death Star to be interrogated. Grand Moff Van Helsing is determined to destroy the rebellion.

You can’t worry about what people have done before, only whether they can pull of the role they are hired to play. Star Wars has had a lot of luck in that area.