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Well I’m serious, I’d love a sequel to Willow.

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To be fair to me (or rather, to everyone but me), I’ve never actually seen it. It never really looked that interesting. I should probably Netflix it or something.

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ZkinandBonez said:

Haarspalter said:

Deadline claims that Ron Howard is the new director:

http://deadline.com/2017/06/ron-howard-star-wars-han-solo-director-1202118193/

It’s been confirmed by starwars.com.

http://www.starwars.com/news/ron-howard-to-assume-directorial-duties-on-the-untitled-han-solo-film?cmp=smc|946759615

“Lucasfilm is pleased to announce that Academy Award-winning filmmaker Ron Howard has been named director of the untitled Han Solo film.”

i am surprised they haven’t named this thing yet. maybe that is the REAL reason for the firings :p

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dahmage said:

ZkinandBonez said:

Haarspalter said:

Deadline claims that Ron Howard is the new director:

http://deadline.com/2017/06/ron-howard-star-wars-han-solo-director-1202118193/

It’s been confirmed by starwars.com.

http://www.starwars.com/news/ron-howard-to-assume-directorial-duties-on-the-untitled-han-solo-film?cmp=smc|946759615

“Lucasfilm is pleased to announce that Academy Award-winning filmmaker Ron Howard has been named director of the untitled Han Solo film.”

i am surprised they haven’t named this thing yet. maybe that is the REAL reason for the firings :p

It doesn’t sound like they have any particular idea what they are doing. Kennedy probably just ordered people to make a Han Solo movie and make it Han-Solo-y. I guess it wasn’t Han-Solo-y enough so now Ron Howard can give it a try.

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From the comments section of Variety…

"Set Dresser says:
June 22, 2017 at 8:18 am

This article sounds like it was written by their agent.
Putting aside my personal opinion that the four films this pair has made so far are, once you get past their core ‘creative’ gimmick, comedic mediocrities, with hollow narratives, paint by numbers dialogue, and wafer thin character archetypes in place of actual character of any sort, if you did any sort of reaching out you’ve got to know that pretty much EVERYBODY wanted them off the film, as they refused to follow the film, as scripted, that they had signed on to and agreed to direct. Instead rewriting scenes and forcing actors to improv, resulting in a more heavily comedic approach, against all advice, and in direct opposition to what they had been hired to make. And they refused to listen or take advice or guidance from anyone, instead seeming to believe that now they were on the film they could do whatever the hell they wanted, and no one could do anything about it.

The majority of the cast was unhappy, the writer was unhappy, the producer was unhappy, the studio was unhappy, no one thought they were doing a good job, they would take advice or course correct, though they were given multiple opportunities to do so, and they certainly weren’t doing the job that they had agreed to do, so ultimately they HAD to be fired. And, frankly, honestly, DESERVED to be.

Part of me wishes someone would leak some of the footage online, just so the fans could see and fully appreciate just how far off the rails this had gone. Honestly, I don’t know if the film is salvageable, or if the reshoots will basically be a page one do-over (I suspect the latter) but even in its current state of flux, the film is in better hands today than it was a week ago, and at least now it has a chance again of being a worthwhile addition to the Star Wars legacy.

Defending the artistic integrity of directors is a noble cause, but next time you might want to find out the full story before you storm that particular barricade, because sometimes, just sometimes, it is the director(s) that are the problem and that are in the wrong and acting unaccountably out of control, and not in the best interest in the film they were hired to make. And this was very much one such case. Just ask, off the record, anyone working set on this show."

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Putting aside my personal opinion that the four films this pair has made so far are, once you get past their core ‘creative’ gimmick, comedic mediocrities, with hollow narratives, paint by numbers dialogue, and wafer thin character archetypes in place of actual character of any sort

Lol.

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The Jump Street movies are very fun and full of innovative ideas. Too innovative for Star Wars it seems… too bad…

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Alderaan said:

dahmage said:

ZkinandBonez said:

Haarspalter said:

Deadline claims that Ron Howard is the new director:

http://deadline.com/2017/06/ron-howard-star-wars-han-solo-director-1202118193/

It’s been confirmed by starwars.com.

http://www.starwars.com/news/ron-howard-to-assume-directorial-duties-on-the-untitled-han-solo-film?cmp=smc|946759615

“Lucasfilm is pleased to announce that Academy Award-winning filmmaker Ron Howard has been named director of the untitled Han Solo film.”

i am surprised they haven’t named this thing yet. maybe that is the REAL reason for the firings :p

It doesn’t sound like they have any particular idea what they are doing. Kennedy probably just ordered people to make a Han Solo movie and make it Han-Solo-y. I guess it wasn’t Han-Solo-y enough so now Ron Howard can give it a try.

Well…I think what she did was she tried to ensure Han-Solo-y-ness by hiring his Dad, Lawrence Kasdan.

I dont know what Kasdan’s deal is and I dont know what really happened. Nobody does. But good thing i have a wild speculative imagination. Here’s one version of what happened according to my imagination:

Maybe he thought “hey I’m just the friggin writer, what the frick do I know!!! I’m just Lawrence Kaaasdan” and just threw his hands up in the air when the giggling duo of Lord and Miller continued to ignore his pleas for some faithfulness to the original character. Eventually he gives up as he sees the train is unstoppable at this point. Then Kennedy says to Kasdan…“give me your no bullshit opinion, is this fucked or what?”.

Now from what I’ve actually read (which could also just be speculation), Kasdan said that Solo was selfish and sarcastic; not funny. What kind of character were Lord and Miller creating? How funny? And why did they hire an actor whose best known role is Hail Caesar where he basically plays a simpleton fool clown?

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I’m betting Ron Howard reshoots at least 60% of the movie. They move it back to Dec 2018 to keep Star Wars at the spot where its done really well the past two years.

It seems like people are really embracing the new characters. In fact, the big question people ask me now about Star Wars is, “Are Finn and Poe gay lovers?” And really how the f*ck would I know? My second husband left me for a man, so my gaydar isn’t exactly what you’d call Death Star level quality. ----Carrie Fisher

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SilverWook said:

R1 being “saved” is up for debate as we’ll likely never see that alternate footage.

Yeah, reasonable people may disagree as to whether the final by-creative-committee film was any good, box office returns aside. The Transformers movies make great box office…

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First, my take of Kennedy is that she is a very skilled producer. She has worked on many projects that have gotten good reviews, award nominations and wins, and did well at the box office. Those are three signs she knows what she is doing. And she has two Star Wars movies in that category so she definitely does know how to bake a successful Star Wars cake.

I liked 21 and 22 Jump Street. Likely what they were thinking was a Han/Lando buddy movie and they picked the right guys to do it… if these weren’t characters with 40 years of history and millions of fans. A film that does not do the characters justice will fall flatter than Jar Jar Binks with the fans. So it sounds like the directors wanted to take the characters in a different direction and Kasdan and Kennedy said no. There likely was some negotiating, or bull headedness, that didn’t end well and either they were sacked for not following instructions or they left because they couldn’t impose their vision on these characters. Either way, good riddance. I trust Kasdan and Kennedy over two comedy directors. Hopefully they were able to put some good camaraderie like the Jump Street movies had, but comedy has always had a back seat (sometimes a backseat driver almost) in the Star Wars films. Whoever comes in to finish this will be overseeing the final shooting, reshoots, and editing, so hopefully they can reverse and potential damage and give us a faithful early outing for our favorite smuggler and wookie.

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Tobar said:

Well I’m serious, I’d love a sequel to Willow.

How about several? With multiple branching timelines?

“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”

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I’ve never seen the Jump Street movies. But The Lego Movie is fantastic, and Cloudy is an acceptable kids movie. As I already laughed, that statement about Lord & Miller’s track record is just silly.

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digitalfreaknyc said:

From the comments section of Variety…

"Set Dresser says:
June 22, 2017 at 8:18 am

This article sounds like it was written by their agent.
Putting aside my personal opinion that the four films this pair has made so far are, once you get past their core ‘creative’ gimmick, comedic mediocrities, with hollow narratives, paint by numbers dialogue, and wafer thin character archetypes in place of actual character of any sort, if you did any sort of reaching out you’ve got to know that pretty much EVERYBODY wanted them off the film, as they refused to follow the film, as scripted, that they had signed on to and agreed to direct. Instead rewriting scenes and forcing actors to improv, resulting in a more heavily comedic approach, against all advice, and in direct opposition to what they had been hired to make. And they refused to listen or take advice or guidance from anyone, instead seeming to believe that now they were on the film they could do whatever the hell they wanted, and no one could do anything about it.

The majority of the cast was unhappy, the writer was unhappy, the producer was unhappy, the studio was unhappy, no one thought they were doing a good job, they would take advice or course correct, though they were given multiple opportunities to do so, and they certainly weren’t doing the job that they had agreed to do, so ultimately they HAD to be fired. And, frankly, honestly, DESERVED to be.

Part of me wishes someone would leak some of the footage online, just so the fans could see and fully appreciate just how far off the rails this had gone. Honestly, I don’t know if the film is salvageable, or if the reshoots will basically be a page one do-over (I suspect the latter) but even in its current state of flux, the film is in better hands today than it was a week ago, and at least now it has a chance again of being a worthwhile addition to the Star Wars legacy.

Defending the artistic integrity of directors is a noble cause, but next time you might want to find out the full story before you storm that particular barricade, because sometimes, just sometimes, it is the director(s) that are the problem and that are in the wrong and acting unaccountably out of control, and not in the best interest in the film they were hired to make. And this was very much one such case. Just ask, off the record, anyone working set on this show."

Somebody just broke their NDA, if they are an “insider” at all.

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Going from that to Ron Howard is quite a reversal. But Ron is a fantastic director. I haven’t seen all of his films, but that ones I have I have loved. The film is in good hands.

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Ron Howard is a lock to reshoot at least 51% of the movie.

There is no way Disney is going to release HAN SOLO: THE STORY YOU ALREADY KNOW directed by Alan Smithee.

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generalfrevious said:

Well, if they are going to fire Lord and Miller, why not get rid of that offensive hack Trevorrow while they’re at it?

Oh wait, this is Lucasfilm. Of course they are going to make the wrong decision and put a cherry on top.

Taking into account what Jurassic World made the only way Trevorrow would be replaced at this point is if he had a literal fist fight with Kathleen Kennedy. Even if everything he’s involved in until IX is a complete disaster, the guy still made a billion bucks and proved he can work within a metric-driven corporate system.

All debates aside, all of this kinda makes me worry for Rian Johnson. He’s a smart guy and I don’t doubt he can make it work just to say he did a Star Wars movie, but I’m interested in seeing his take on Star Wars, and not just a Star Wars movie he gets directing credit for. I do hope that at the very least this project opens up a few new avenues for him as a filmmaker.

Oh, and Ron Howard is a reasonable choice for a mercenary. Smart, even. But it makes me even less excited for the movie than I already have been.

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yotsuya said:

First, my take of Kennedy is that she is a very skilled producer. She has worked on many projects that have gotten good reviews, award nominations and wins, and did well at the box office. Those are three signs she knows what she is doing. And she has two Star Wars movies in that category so she definitely does know how to bake a successful Star Wars cake.

I liked 21 and 22 Jump Street. Likely what they were thinking was a Han/Lando buddy movie and they picked the right guys to do it… if these weren’t characters with 40 years of history and millions of fans. A film that does not do the characters justice will fall flatter than Jar Jar Binks with the fans. So it sounds like the directors wanted to take the characters in a different direction and Kasdan and Kennedy said no. There likely was some negotiating, or bull headedness, that didn’t end well and either they were sacked for not following instructions or they left because they couldn’t impose their vision on these characters. Either way, good riddance. I trust Kasdan and Kennedy over two comedy directors. Hopefully they were able to put some good camaraderie like the Jump Street movies had, but comedy has always had a back seat (sometimes a backseat driver almost) in the Star Wars films. Whoever comes in to finish this will be overseeing the final shooting, reshoots, and editing, so hopefully they can reverse and potential damage and give us a faithful early outing for our favorite smuggler and wookie.

I can’t imagine Gary Kurtz would have let this drag on for five months.

And what the heck is a wookie? 😉

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Alderaan said:

Ron Howard is a lock to reshoot at least 51% of the movie.

There is no way Disney is going to release HAN SOLO: THE STORY YOU ALREADY KNOW directed by Alan Smithee.

Provided none of the cast has other commitments past what was supposed to be the end of shooting just three(?) weeks away before this happened. A major reshoot is going to screw up the release date either way.

The DGA retired Mr. Smithee many years ago. Not sure what the alias is these days.

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yotsuya said:

Going from that to Ron Howard is quite a reversal. But Ron is a fantastic director. I haven’t seen all of his films, but that ones I have I have loved. The film is in good hands.

But what’s he done recently?