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Do you think Disney will release the unaltered versions for DVD and blue ray? — Page 30

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Swift S. Lawliet said:

monkeyjb1988 said:

mutantchair said:

I found a better source for the 2020 figure… Disney’s official SEC filings for Q4 FY2013:

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1001039/000100103913000164/fy2013_q4x10k.htm

“Prior to the Company’s acquisition, Lucasfilm produced six Star Wars films (Episodes 1 through 6). Lucasfilm retained the rights to consumer products related to all of the films and the rights related to television and electronic distribution formats for all of the films, with the exception of the rights for Episode 4, which are owned by a third-party studio. All of the films are distributed by a third-party studio in the theatrical and home video markets. The theatrical and home video distribution rights for these films revert back to Lucasfilm in May 2020 with the exception of Episode 4, for which these distribution rights are retained in perpetuity by the third-party studio.”

Well, THAT’S definitive. I’m sure Disney will work out something to include IV with any movie set, but I’m sure the accountants will want to wait until May 2020 to ONLY worry about IV.

Disney will never release Star Wars individually, even if the rest of the Saga and/or Original Trilogy will be released by Disney.

Fox will probably release Star Wars and maybe it will have matching artwork but Disney won’t do it.

Disney can, however, include Star Wars with the rest of the Saga and/or Original Trilogy in a box set as long as they have permission from Fox.

Disney already did it with The Incredible Hulk (Universal) in the Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase One box set and with Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro (Eastern Star Media/Discotek) in The Collected Works of Hayao Miyazaki box set and they had permission from the companies that distributed the respective films from their respective box sets as well as the fact that Disney owns every other movie in said box sets.

In The Incredible Hulk, Disney didn’t author a new disc, they just recycled the same content from Universal’s disc.

Though with Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro, they did author a new disc just so it will have the same menu style as the other Studio Ghibli Blu-rays by Disney and so it won’t have bonus features like the other movies in the Hayao Miyazaki box set.
They also used a DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 version of the remastered audio mix from the 2014 Japanese remastered theatrical reissue which was only in a lossy form in the US standalone and Japanese Blu-rays.
And they also upmixed the Streamline dub to 5.1 for their box set but they only duplicated the mono channel in all of the speakers.

So maybe the Star Wars Blu-ray by Fox can be also authored similarly to the other movies.

I know it won’t be on it’s own. I’m just saying, waiting until May 2020, Disney can release their set and only need to pay Fox for one.

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Crazy theory time:

Disney already has full ownership over the other five movies so far as digital downloads are concerned, right?

Well, couldn’t they just get the OOT out there right now as a digital-only release, if they wanted to?

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Sure they could. Could you imagine the ire, though? I think, generally, people who care about the OOT also tend to care about physical media.

TV’s Frink said:

I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.

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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Sure they could. Could you imagine the ire, though? I think, generally, people who care about the OOT also tend to care about physical media.

Oh, most definitely. A nicely remastered OOT hitting digital before physical blu/4k would cause quite an uproar and would probably be a bad idea.

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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Sure they could. Could you imagine the ire, though? I think, generally, people who care about the OOT also tend to care about physical media.

I know I do. I might get the digital releases if that did happen, but it would be a pain.

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With Episode IX arriving in theaters in December 2019, there is a HUGE chance we’ll get that film by itself, AND we’ll get all 9 Skywalker Saga films together all in ONE set in May 2020. I know Disney will pay them a certain percentage in order to use Episode IV. That’s just a big paycheck for them for nothing but rights to one film.

It will be a collaborative effort with both studios, I’m sure of it.

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I’m 100% certain we are overthinking the Fox-Disney thing. It’s not novel for a movie to be owned by one studio and distributed by another.

TV’s Frink said:

I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.

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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

I’m 100% certain we are overthinking the Fox-Disney thing. It’s not novel for a movie to be owned by one studio and distributed by another.

Right. Look at the Halloween franchise for example. Tons of studios came together to put out a complete series box set.

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nickyd47 said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

I’m 100% certain we are overthinking the Fox-Disney thing. It’s not novel for a movie to be owned by one studio and distributed by another.

Right. Look at the Halloween franchise for example. Tons of studios came together to put out a complete series box set.

Exactly. You can also get all the Chucky movies in one set despite one film being owned by another company.

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There was definitely a Terminator box set at one point. There was also the sony-owned Dr. Strangelove and uni-owned Spartacus in the Kubrick sets.

The Mad Max set is another good example.

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And for some Disney examples:

  • The Incredible Hulk which was owned by Universal but was on the Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase One box set by Disney.
  • Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro which was licensed for North American release by Discotek/Eastern Star Media but was on The Collected Works of Hayao Miyazaki box set by Disney.

For the Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase One box set, the Paramount distributed ones were copyrighted under Marvel and immediately went to Disney after they released The Avengers: the last Phase One movie. This may happen again in case they make a Phase Three box set where they most likely will include Spider-Man: Homecoming.

And for The Collected Works of Hayao Miyazaki box set (US release only), Disney licensed all the other Hayao Miyazaki films for release in North America.
And Studio Ghibli has the home video distribution copyrights for all of the Hayao Miyazaki films in Japan, and Walt Disney Japan is Studio Ghibli’s official home video distributor in Japan, so there are no problems over there.
Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro was also included in both UK and Australian releases since StudioCanal in UK and Madman Entertainment in Australia own the distribution copyrights to both Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro and the other Hayao Miyazaki films in their respective countries.
The only problem is in Hong Kong where Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro wasn’t included in the box set because IVL, the official Hong Kong distributor for all the Studio Ghibli films, never got the distribution copyrights to Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro nor was it licensed by another company, leaving it without an official release in Hong Kong at all.
Pretty ironic since the Studio Ghibli films are quite popular in Hong Kong, Taiwan and China.
Bootlegs of that movie with Chinese subtitles are still quite common in Hong Kong given how much the Chinese love Studio Ghibli films.

And I’ve loved every pixel of it.
(Clarissa Darling, Clarissa Explains It All)

You’re so right.
(Kylo Ren, Star Wars: The Force Awakens)

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The upcoming Spiderman film required cooperation between Sony and Disney, right?

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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

I’m 100% certain we are overthinking the Fox-Disney thing. It’s not novel for a movie to be owned by one studio and distributed by another.

You’re right it’s not uncommon, and it will happen. What’s strange to me is that for digital release Disney couldn’t get the digital rights from Fox for ANH. You can’t buy it on their own platform:

https://www.disneymoviesanywhere.com/search?q=star wars

Fox has always played hardball with ANH. Lucasfilm tried to buy the copyright multiple times and Fox wouldn’t budge. So Disney is going to have to pay up to get a home video box set out. Fox has leverage to delay that as long as they want.

But that’s equally true whether we’re talking about special editions or original versions. I’m confident Disney will eventually negotiate a home video box set release with Fox, and pay a lot for it. Whether they can release original cuts is a whole separate issue.

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I noticed something interesting and strange on the Return of the Jedi Digital Movie Collection trailer.

You can faintly hear Yub Nub when they showed a clip of the ending.

It’s very brief but you can notice that it’s Yub Nub instead of the Victory Celebration song.

And even better, they play the film version instead of the soundtrack version (which the LEGO Star Wars short films did).

Could this be the sign of a very un-special surprise Lucasfilm has for the future?

And I’ve loved every pixel of it.
(Clarissa Darling, Clarissa Explains It All)

You’re so right.
(Kylo Ren, Star Wars: The Force Awakens)

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How did you end up watching that trailer? Was it just put up recently?

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Fang Zei said:

How did you end up watching that trailer? Was it just put up recently?

It’s on YouTube.
And it was already there for like two years.

I just love that modern-style trailer.

And I’ve loved every pixel of it.
(Clarissa Darling, Clarissa Explains It All)

You’re so right.
(Kylo Ren, Star Wars: The Force Awakens)

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Swift S. Lawliet said:

Fang Zei said:

How did you end up watching that trailer? Was it just put up recently?

It’s on YouTube.
And it was already there for like two years.

I just love that modern-style trailer.

I didn’t hear it

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Yeah but did you see the grappling hook miss?

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nickyd47 said:

Swift S. Lawliet said:

Fang Zei said:

How did you end up watching that trailer? Was it just put up recently?

It’s on YouTube.
And it was already there for like two years.

I just love that modern-style trailer.

I didn’t hear it

You can faintly hear it.

But then again, I was using earbuds to watch the trailer.

You can hear it at around the 1:01 mark when they showed a clip of the victory celebration ending.

And I’ve loved every pixel of it.
(Clarissa Darling, Clarissa Explains It All)

You’re so right.
(Kylo Ren, Star Wars: The Force Awakens)

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I don’t think Disney will release the unaltered versions because they are still in the vaults of George Lucas. Kathleen Kennedy also stated that she never touched those versions and that they all belong to Mr. Lucas.

I’m one with the Force and the Force is with me…

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Nigel said:

I don’t think Disney will release the unaltered versions because they are still in the vaults of George Lucas. Kathleen Kennedy also stated that she never touched those versions and that they all belong to Mr. Lucas.

They are in Lucasfilm’s vaults, not George’s.

Kennedy said she would never touch his versions, meaning she would never allow further changes to the SE not done by him. This does not necessarily mean she wouldn’t consider including the original versions alongside George’s preferred version.

That guy who interviewed her at SWCO did not ask her specifically about whether the unaltered versions will ever be restored and released, if that was even his intention.

I think Disney/Lucasfilm will wait until after Episode IX to comment on this matter at all.

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I think the only way disney is going to do anything is if original trilogy fans decided to become a left-wing-style activist group of some kind, then they’ll bend over a lightsaber to release it.

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At least the thread title is worth the discussion: “blue“ ray 😉

“People who alter or destroy works of art and our cultural heritage for profit or as an exercise of power are barbarians”

“In the future it will become even easier for old negatives to become lost and be “replaced” by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten.” --George Lucas on March 3, 1988