Han not being portrayed right is the best of reasons to split but the worse problem the film could have had.
And it took the bosses at Lucasfilm five months to realize this? When the heck did they decide to start watching the footage?
Where were you in '77?
Han not being portrayed right is the best of reasons to split but the worse problem the film could have had.
And it took the bosses at Lucasfilm five months to realize this? When the heck did they decide to start watching the footage?
Word is Kasden and the on set LFL rep were at odds with them often throughout filming.
A drastic decision should have been made months ago then.
Where were you in '77?
Han not being portrayed right is the best of reasons to split but the worse problem the film could have had.
And it took the bosses at Lucasfilm five months to realize this? When the heck did they decide to start watching the footage?
It’s something that should have been noticed before preproduction as the script would have reflected this possibility even more than the footage.
The funniest thing I’ve read on this is where Kathleen Kennedy claims she knows how to bake the Star Wars cake, she just knows how these things are done.
No, no you don’t lady. You haven’t been around for a single good Star Wars movie. Ever.
Do you honestly think Kathleen Kennedy knows less about making movies than the guys who made 21 Jumpstreet and Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs?
Don’t make the mistake of listening to anything Alderaan wines about.
Wow! Bad news travels fast. Disney is going to have a hard time putting a positive spin on this one. How many months were left in the shoot? There could even be a Director’s guild dispute over how much of the finished film was directed by whom.\
Who would even want the burden of stepping into a movie five months into production?
Maybe director Allan Smithee is available. 😃
Don’t make the mistake of listening to anything Alderaan wines about.
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Don’t make the mistake of listening to anything Alderaan wines about.
This post has been proven to improve as it ages.
yeah, stupid voice text
It’s nice that Kathleen Kennedy is purging creative talent for profit. Because that’s what we need, the franchise being dragged further under water, after the prequels took a hit to the franchise. Even if TLJ turns out to be good, episode IX is going to suck hard (Book of Henry was awful and sexist), and now the Han Solo movie is going to be neutered on arrival.
What a miserable lot that this franchise has had to go rapidly downhill after the second installment, thanks to corporate greed.
Corporate greed was responsible for ROTJ?
Corporate greed was responsible for ROTJ?
Why were the Ewoks even there? Or the aliens in Jabba’s palace? To sell toys of course. Lucas abandoned all ideas of creativity when the toy sales were overshadowing ticket sales. That’s why Han Solo survived at the end of Jedi, because no one would buy toys of a dead character.
Well Fuck.
Do you honestly think Kathleen Kennedy knows less about making movies than the guys who made 21 Jumpstreet and Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs?
There is this pretty famous quote about the blind leading the blind and all…
Kathleen Kennedy is proving herself be worse than Heotge Lucas ever was. It doesn’t help either that before she took over LFL she was one of Spielberg’s cronies (who is, of course, close to Lucas), thus ensuring the company will continue to be run in the most illogical, greed focused manner of George’s PT/SE heyday.
Kathleen Kennedy is proving herself be worse than Heotge Lucas ever was. It doesn’t help either that before she took over LFL she was one of Spielberg’s cronies (who is, of course, close to Lucas), thus ensuring the company will continue to be run in the most illogical, greed focused manner of George’s PT/SE heyday.
Heotge?
“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”
Heotge Lucas is George’s evil twin.
Or is George the evil twin?
Kathleen Kennedy is proving herself be worse than Heotge Lucas ever was. It doesn’t help either that before she took over LFL she was one of Spielberg’s cronies (who is, of course, close to Lucas), thus ensuring the company will continue to be run in the most illogical, greed focused manner of George’s PT/SE heyday.
Heotge?
I MEANT GEORGE!
“Unexpected this is, and unfortunate.”
What a truly confusing turn of events.
Going solely on the information we’ve been given, it would seem Kennedy and Kasdan had a problem with how Lord & Miller executed the script. I can’t help but be suspicious of whether that’s really the reason or just the spin both sides are putting on it.
I’m sure it’s possible it just took everyone until this point in time to realize things weren’t working out. But only now (at the end, do you understand?) with principal photography almost over? Yikes. I mean, you don’t hire the guys who made 21 and 22 Jump Street and The Lego Movie and not expect them to do their own thing.
You’ve got to wonder just what exactly LFL thought would happen when they hired the guys in the first place. Based on what we’re hearing, the directors had tensions with LFL from day one.
Lucasfilm has now had issues with its directors on both of the standalone movies made so far. Even on TFA we know Abrams tried to gain as much control over this franchise as he could before Kennedy put her foot down. By contrast, the worst that’s happened with TLJ is Rian Johnson asking the release be pushed back from May to December so he’d have more time to work on the script … and LFL complying.
Speaking of which, it will be very interesting to see if this Han Solo movie doesn’t get delayed as well. Sure, they’re sticking to the release date for now (and no, it wouldn’t look good if they pushed it to December in the next couple weeks with less than a year to go), but is there anything huge from other studios currently scheduled for December of next year?
It would be kind of hilarious if this is what finally puts Ron Howard in the director’s chair of a Star Wars prequel.
Rogue One was saved by bringing in another director and doing extensive reshoots. The result was an amazing movie that got great reviews and ended up #7 on the all time domestic box office list. Kathleen Kennedy is likely saving this movie as well. The other Star Wars movie she produced is #1 on that list and I expect the next one, The Last Jedi, to continue the trend of high grossing and well reviewed movies. I trust her more than L&M. I didn’t want to see 21 Jedi Street.
Huh, I hadn’t heard about Kathy stopping Abrams from doing whatever he wanted, but I guess I don’t really follow Hollywood news much.
But between that, and this, it also makes me wonder what the real story is with Edwards and Rogue One was. It makes me wonder if the official version of the story about “oh, the original cut wasn’t that different, just the archive and transmission tower were two different buildings” is really all there was to it. It makes me wonder how much of the movie is really Gareth’s, how much is the reshoot director’s, and how much is Lucasfilm committee…
But this news certainly makes it clear these films (much like marvel) are directed by committee and the actual director is only there to get the film management wants and NOT to put their own creative ideas onscreen.
I mean, I can’t complain too much because I thoroughly enjoyed both TFA and R1 but it must kinda suck as an artist to be a director for any of these films. But then, I guess it would also kinda suck to be a writer and watch a director who doesn’t get your ideas and doesnt interpret your words to film the way you intended.
Edit: Rodney makes a good point (that he posted while I was writing this). Kennedy has a pretty impressive resume as a producer. She probably knows what she’s doing…
Do you honestly think Kathleen Kennedy knows less about making movies than the guys who made 21 Jumpstreet and Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs?
22 Jump Street and The Lego Movie, too; all of which were very successful, so I guess I fail to see your point.
R1 being “saved” is up for debate as we’ll likely never see that alternate footage.
A good producer should have dealt with these problems months ago. Now they have a PR mess to clean up, because this movie is already being perceived as damaged goods.
Where were you in '77?
Rian Johnson was hired to WRITE and direct VIII. L&M were hired to direct Kasdan’s script so naturally they didn’t have the same amount of freedom. Rian doesn’t seem to be held back and is making his movie. James Gunn and Taikai Waititi have definitely made movies that are very much their own. I guess some people know how to work well with others and some don’t.