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What do you HATE about the EU? — Page 43

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I saw a video that said R5D4 was a Jedi or something. What even.

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Lucasfilm decanonized the EU.

Lucasfilm kept the film novelizations in canon.

The SW novelization established that the SW Galaxy was a modest-sized galaxy (ie. small-to-average).

The EU established that the SW Galaxy was 100,000 light-years in diametre (That’s about the same size as the Milky Way Galaxy, which is a huge, above-average sized galaxy.).

The nuEU recanonized the “SW Galaxy is 100,000 light-years in diametre” factoid.

LOL

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DuracellEnergizer said:

The SW novelization established that the SW Galaxy was a modest-sized galaxy (ie. small-to-average).

One of these days I should actually sit down and read my first-edition paperbacks of the novelizations that have just been lying around collecting dust.

I feel like every several months there’s another crazy thing from them I’m finding out for the first time and being incredulous about.

Anyway, the neighborhood is having a yard sale next Saturday and I’ve been going through my books on the off chance anyone’s going to want them for a dollar each. I’m getting rid of my paperbacks of the six clone wars (little c, little w) novels, originally published from mid '03 to late '04, which I’m never reading again anyway. There’s also my mass market paperback of Heir to the Empire from 1992 that I feel somewhat of an inclination to hold on to for whatever reason, and my mass markets of Dark Force Rising (from years later) which I never finished, and The Last Command which I never even got to.

I’m also slightly conflicted about getting rid of my Vector Prime hardcover, complete with a crease down the jacket spine that I’d see on every used copy, if for no other reason than its historic place in the old EU, what with Chewie’s death and all. Then there’s darktide: onslaught and my paperback of Balance Point, both of which I actually read, and the Jedi Eclipse duology that I got brand new double-discounted but never got around to (it was one of those later paperback copies where they actually print the discount you’re getting right there at the top of the cover, and this was at a b dalton’s going-out-of-business sale so it was even further discounted). I was smart enough to stop there regarding the NJO, never even got dark tide: ruin.

Then there’s odds and ends like my paperback of Tatooine Ghost I never got around to either. Noticing a trend here?

Ah, then there’s the prequel novelizations, all of which I’ve read. Still have my TPM hardback with the Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon cover, and the latter two are in paperback. I’ll probably hold on to the A.C. Crispin Han Solo trilogy since I’ve never read it and it might be interesting to compare the upcoming standalone movie against. Shadows of the Empire paperback, might keep it out of nostalgia but should probably get rid of it.

My 90’s paperback of Splinter with the GL intro will stay, as will the aforementioned first-edition OT novelizations.

Then there’s my collection of Star Wars comics from '03 to '07 (don’t worry, it’s well under a box’s worth) that I might look up to check the value of but will probably hold on to in the vain hope they’ll be worth something someday. I mean, that’s whay you’re supposed to do with comics, right?

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Disco_Lobot said:

The only really good things to come out of the EU are PC games and mods.

You clearly need to read more then.

DuracellEnergizer said:

Lucasfilm kept the film novelizations in canon.

I’m pretty sure that’s not true. The only things they outright said were going to be in the Disneyverse were the six films and TCW series and movie (CG, not 2D), plus all Disney content going forward.
Unless of course they’ve since come out and said the novelisations for I - VI are also part of the Disneyverse, but I don’t recall them every saying so.

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I don’t know how the Revenge of the Sith novelisation would be canon, because it references things like the Battle of Jabiim and Shatterpoints.

Not enough people read the EU.

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LuckyGungan2001 said:

and Shatterpoints.

Which (some people think) was made canon in that episode of The Clone Wars where Mace Windu, er, shatterpoints the transparisteel of an AT-TE cockpit.

Or, in other words, he Windu’s a window.

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Ryan-SWI said:

Disco_Lobot said:

The only really good things to come out of the EU are PC games and mods.

You clearly need to read more then.

DuracellEnergizer said:

Lucasfilm kept the film novelizations in canon.

I’m pretty sure that’s not true. The only things they outright said were going to be in the Disneyverse were the six films and TCW series and movie (CG, not 2D), plus all Disney content going forward.
Unless of course they’ve since come out and said the novelisations for I - VI are also part of the Disneyverse, but I don’t recall them every saying so.

I don’t recall them ever saying that either.

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I was just at the book store and I noticed that the current paperback anthology of the OT novelizations has the slightly taller dimensions of the canon Disney novels rather than the traditional mass market paperback size that all the Legends material is. Maybe they did quietly recanonize them after all.

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joefavs said:

I was just at the book store and I noticed that the current paperback anthology of the OT novelizations has the slightly taller dimensions of the canon Disney novels rather than the traditional mass market paperback size that all the Legends material is. Maybe they did quietly recanonize them after all.

Well, to the layman, the weird thing about slapping “legends” on the covers would be that the novelizations of the very things kept within canon aren’t canon. So maybe they left the legends label off to avoid confusion.

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Another thing I hate about the nuEU: the en masse recanonization of so much of the old EU’s minutiae.

For example, take Evazan and Ponda Baba’s backstories. In the old EU, they were effectively the SW Universe’s Dr. Frankenstein and Igor. Now here comes the nuEU, wiping the slate clean, giving the writers a fresh, blank canvas on which to reinterpret these characters in whole new different, interesting ways. So what do the writers do? Make the characters Dr. Frankenstein and Igor again.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Another thing I hate about the nuEU: the en masse recanonization of so much of the old EU’s minutiae.

For example, take Evazan and Ponda Baba’s backstories. In the old EU, they were effectively the SW Universe’s Dr. Frankenstein and Igor. Now here comes the nuEU, wiping the slate clean, giving the writers a fresh, blank canvas on which to reinterpret these characters in whole new different, interesting ways. So what do the writers do? Make the characters Dr. Frankenstein and Igor again.

I suppose the idea is “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.” Maybe you think it is broke, though, I don’t know.

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Lord Haseo said:

This is pathetic

All I can do is laugh at these EU fanboys and revel in the fact that all their crying will not yield any fruit.

Just like Original Trilogy fans who cried about the Prequels and the SE?

I suppose the idea is “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”

Maybe, but I’m more inclined to think the writers at Lucasfilm right now just aren’t very inspired.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Another thing I hate about the nuEU: the en masse recanonization of so much of the old EU’s minutiae.

For example, take Evazan and Ponda Baba’s backstories. In the old EU, they were effectively the SW Universe’s Dr. Frankenstein and Igor. Now here comes the nuEU, wiping the slate clean, giving the writers a fresh, blank canvas on which to reinterpret these characters in whole new different, interesting ways. So what do the writers do? Make the characters Dr. Frankenstein and Igor again.

To be honest…I preFer that disney keep everything eu related before return of the jedi and minus the post KOTOR era(that dreadful MMO needs to die)

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The novelizations of the seven films–including The Clone Wars–are canon.

— StarWarsBooks (@DelReyStarWars) April 30, 2014

To clarify, movie novelizations are canon where they align with what is seen on screen in the 6 films and the Clone Wars animated movie.

— StarWarsBooks (@DelReyStarWars) April 30, 2014

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Tobar said:

The novelizations of the seven films–including The Clone Wars–are canon.

— StarWarsBooks (@DelReyStarWars) April 30, 2014

To clarify, movie novelizations are canon where they align with what is seen on screen in the 6 films and the Clone Wars animated movie.

— StarWarsBooks (@DelReyStarWars) April 30, 2014

Clone wars alone has 100 planets and hundreds of characters

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Jesta’ said:

Lord Haseo said:

This is pathetic

All I can do is laugh at these EU fanboys and revel in the fact that all their crying will not yield any fruit.

Just like Original Trilogy fans who cried about the Prequels and the SE?

Who boycotted the release/rerelease of both the PT and SE? Certainly not I sir.