logo Sign In

4K restoration on Star Wars — Page 192

Author
Time
 (Edited)

Cthulhunicron said:

So why does Lucasfilm know about his restoration if he doesn’t plan on releasing it?

Because he told them about it, probably.
Mike has done contract work on a few projects for Lucasfilm and Disney over the years and has many contacts there. He has always been open about Legacy and the fact that he wasn’t going to release it is precisely why he was able to obtain such good sources.

His plan after finishing the work was to set up a screening for executives with the hope that one day it might be actually used for a release. He last stated in November that he had found “the guy” at Disney and through those conversations was connected with “the guy” at Fox with tentative plans for a screening in late February.

And yes, he has good sources but he also developed new techniques to combine information together from his multiple sources, so his restoration is most definitely the best SW has ever looked.

“In the future it will become even easier for old negatives to become lost and be “replaced” by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten.” - George Lucas

Author
Time
 (Edited)

Mike’s techniques can be applied to other films, so the R&D is going to be valuable either way.

Forum Moderator

Where were you in '77?

Author
Time

Depheros said:
This is why I can’t stand the Star Wars reddit. It’s full of PT and SE worshippers who won’t stop posting about their tattoos and stick figure families. I see tons of people on there saying “most of the changes were great, just get rid of Greedo shooting and it will be perfect.”

The prequel worship there makes me sick. It’s a wretched hive of scum and villainy.

Old-school OOT fans have zero place on /r/starwars. Just try to post anything remotely pro-OOT and you’ll receive the flood of down votes. You don’t even have to be anti-prequel - just pro-OOT. I swear everyone there is a 13-year-old Jar Jar fan.

Author
Time

stealthboy said:

Depheros said:
This is why I can’t stand the Star Wars reddit. It’s full of PT and SE worshippers who won’t stop posting about their tattoos and stick figure families. I see tons of people on there saying “most of the changes were great, just get rid of Greedo shooting and it will be perfect.”

The prequel worship there makes me sick. It’s a wretched hive of scum and villainy.

Old-school OOT fans have zero place on /r/starwars. Just try to post anything remotely pro-OOT and you’ll receive the flood of down votes. You don’t even have to be anti-prequel - just pro-OOT. I swear everyone there is a 13-year-old Jar Jar fan.

They’re here too, although in fewer numbers.

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Enlightenment/id/55059

Author
Time

Y’know, if a restored/remastered OOT were to happen within the next couple years, do you think Lucasfilm would just release the original three movies or do you think it would be all six (with the OT movies “just happening to include their original versions”)?

Reason I ask is because the OT hasn’t recieved preferential treatment on home media since forever ago. Yeah, there was the GOUT, but that was also the first time the original three were available individually so it hardly counts.

It’s actually kind of hard for me to imagine LFL re-releasing only the OT movies just for the sake of putting the OOT on the market. Even if the SE was from the newer 4k master, I feel like it would just seem awkward. Sure, we would be thrilled, but I could see prequel/SE fans not liking the preferential treatment the OT was getting. LFL doesn’t want division within the fandom like that. I could see them also reissuing the prequels at the same time. While the changes to TPM have not been nearly as extensive as those to the OT, it’s essentially its own SE now. The theatrical version would be a nice bonus, ditto the Imax cut of AotC.

This is why I don’t think they’ll bother to put out the OOT until the time comes for a 4k UHD release, which won’t be for another several years anyway. I could see them putting it together similarly to how they did the 2011 “complete saga” set. Maybe they could even carry over the dvd extras that weren’t included in the blu-ray (“The Beginning,” anyone?). There’s even a few good ones they’ve never included in any release, like the Fox specials hosted by Howie Long and Samuel L. Jackson that aired in '97 and '99, respectively. There was also The Legacy Revealed from EoD’s Kevin Burns, which aired on the history channel in 2007.

If it really is going to take that long, one upside is it will give us more time to petition Lucasfilm with everything we’d want to see included, like the '97 SE for example.

Author
Time

I wouldn’t be surprised if we never see another Complete Saga set and they just sell individual trilogies from now on

TV’s Frink said:

I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.

Author
Time

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

I wouldn’t be surprised if we never see another Complete Saga set and they just sell individual trilogies from now on

That would be preferable

Author
Time

Cobra Kai said:

Cthulhunicron said:

So why does Lucasfilm know about his restoration if he doesn’t plan on releasing it?

Because he told them about it, probably.
Mike has done contract work on a few projects for Lucasfilm and Disney over the years and has many contacts there. He has always been open about Legacy and the fact that he wasn’t going to release it is precisely why he was able to obtain such good sources.

His plan after finishing the work was to set up a screening for executives with the hope that one day it might be actually used for a release. He last stated in November that he had found “the guy” at Disney and through those conversations was connected with “the guy” at Fox with tentative plans for a screening in late February.

And yes, he has good sources but he also developed new techniques to combine information together from his multiple sources, so his restoration is most definitely the best SW has ever looked.

So one of the reasons why he has access to the sources that he does is because he informed Lucasfilm of what he was doing?

Author
Time

Cthulhunicron said:

Cobra Kai said:

Cthulhunicron said:

So why does Lucasfilm know about his restoration if he doesn’t plan on releasing it?

Because he told them about it, probably.
Mike has done contract work on a few projects for Lucasfilm and Disney over the years and has many contacts there. He has always been open about Legacy and the fact that he wasn’t going to release it is precisely why he was able to obtain such good sources.

His plan after finishing the work was to set up a screening for executives with the hope that one day it might be actually used for a release. He last stated in November that he had found “the guy” at Disney and through those conversations was connected with “the guy” at Fox with tentative plans for a screening in late February.

And yes, he has good sources but he also developed new techniques to combine information together from his multiple sources, so his restoration is most definitely the best SW has ever looked.

So one of the reasons why he has access to the sources that he does is because he informed Lucasfilm of what he was doing?

have you read Mike Verta’s thread? i feel like most of this is covered there. Granted, its a really long thread. but better to read it from the source, then have it all reposted here.

Author
Time

dahmage said:

Cthulhunicron said:

Cobra Kai said:

Cthulhunicron said:

So why does Lucasfilm know about his restoration if he doesn’t plan on releasing it?

Because he told them about it, probably.
Mike has done contract work on a few projects for Lucasfilm and Disney over the years and has many contacts there. He has always been open about Legacy and the fact that he wasn’t going to release it is precisely why he was able to obtain such good sources.

His plan after finishing the work was to set up a screening for executives with the hope that one day it might be actually used for a release. He last stated in November that he had found “the guy” at Disney and through those conversations was connected with “the guy” at Fox with tentative plans for a screening in late February.

And yes, he has good sources but he also developed new techniques to combine information together from his multiple sources, so his restoration is most definitely the best SW has ever looked.

So one of the reasons why he has access to the sources that he does is because he informed Lucasfilm of what he was doing?

have you read Mike Verta’s thread? i feel like most of this is covered there. Granted, its a really long thread. but better to read it from the source, then have it all reposted here.

Link?

Author
Time

dahmage said:

Cthulhunicron said:

Cobra Kai said:

Cthulhunicron said:

So why does Lucasfilm know about his restoration if he doesn’t plan on releasing it?

Because he told them about it, probably.
Mike has done contract work on a few projects for Lucasfilm and Disney over the years and has many contacts there. He has always been open about Legacy and the fact that he wasn’t going to release it is precisely why he was able to obtain such good sources.

His plan after finishing the work was to set up a screening for executives with the hope that one day it might be actually used for a release. He last stated in November that he had found “the guy” at Disney and through those conversations was connected with “the guy” at Fox with tentative plans for a screening in late February.

And yes, he has good sources but he also developed new techniques to combine information together from his multiple sources, so his restoration is most definitely the best SW has ever looked.

So one of the reasons why he has access to the sources that he does is because he informed Lucasfilm of what he was doing?

have you read Mike Verta’s thread? i feel like most of this is covered there. Granted, its a really long thread. but better to read it from the source, then have it all reposted here.

Sorry, I haven’t been able to find it.

Author
Time

rodneyfaile said:

dahmage said:

Cthulhunicron said:

Cobra Kai said:

Cthulhunicron said:

So why does Lucasfilm know about his restoration if he doesn’t plan on releasing it?

Because he told them about it, probably.
Mike has done contract work on a few projects for Lucasfilm and Disney over the years and has many contacts there. He has always been open about Legacy and the fact that he wasn’t going to release it is precisely why he was able to obtain such good sources.

His plan after finishing the work was to set up a screening for executives with the hope that one day it might be actually used for a release. He last stated in November that he had found “the guy” at Disney and through those conversations was connected with “the guy” at Fox with tentative plans for a screening in late February.

And yes, he has good sources but he also developed new techniques to combine information together from his multiple sources, so his restoration is most definitely the best SW has ever looked.

So one of the reasons why he has access to the sources that he does is because he informed Lucasfilm of what he was doing?

have you read Mike Verta’s thread? i feel like most of this is covered there. Granted, its a really long thread. but better to read it from the source, then have it all reposted here.

Link?

Cthulhunicron said:

dahmage said:

Cthulhunicron said:

Cobra Kai said:

Cthulhunicron said:

So why does Lucasfilm know about his restoration if he doesn’t plan on releasing it?

Because he told them about it, probably.
Mike has done contract work on a few projects for Lucasfilm and Disney over the years and has many contacts there. He has always been open about Legacy and the fact that he wasn’t going to release it is precisely why he was able to obtain such good sources.

His plan after finishing the work was to set up a screening for executives with the hope that one day it might be actually used for a release. He last stated in November that he had found “the guy” at Disney and through those conversations was connected with “the guy” at Fox with tentative plans for a screening in late February.

And yes, he has good sources but he also developed new techniques to combine information together from his multiple sources, so his restoration is most definitely the best SW has ever looked.

So one of the reasons why he has access to the sources that he does is because he informed Lucasfilm of what he was doing?

have you read Mike Verta’s thread? i feel like most of this is covered there. Granted, its a really long thread. but better to read it from the source, then have it all reposted here.

Sorry, I haven’t been able to find it.

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/StarWarsLegacycom-The-Official-Thread/id/1418

Author
Time
 (Edited)

How hard have you looked? Hint: it’s on the very first page of the sub forum it would make the most sense for it to be in.

Edit: dahmage is much kinder than I.

Author
Time
 (Edited)

TBS is showing the Original Trilogy tomorrow.
Edit: I misread the article. They are showing I-VI.

Author
Time

MisterRey said:

TBS is showing the Original Trilogy tomorrow.
Edit: I misread the article. They are showing I-VI.

Have the TV broadcasts been updated to the 2011 Master, or are they still based on the '04 Master?

I doubt a TV broadcast will be how they unveil the new 4K scans.

Author
Time

flametitan said:

MisterRey said:

TBS is showing the Original Trilogy tomorrow.
Edit: I misread the article. They are showing I-VI.

Have the TV broadcasts been updated to the 2011 Master, or are they still based on the '04 Master?

I doubt a TV broadcast will be how they unveil the new 4K scans.

It would’ve been interesting if they were just showing the Original Trilogy IMO, but they’re not, so nvm.

Author
Time
 (Edited)

Well, maybe “taping” the broadcasts would be valueable to see if we get an “interesting” version anyway. Maybe the theatrical version of Episode I shows up again by chance. That happened with one broadcast on the Austrian TV. Sadly just for one time. 😦

“People who alter or destroy works of art and our cultural heritage for profit or as an exercise of power are barbarians”

“In the future it will become even easier for old negatives to become lost and be “replaced” by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten.” --George Lucas on March 3, 1988

Author
Time

The transfers of I-VI tbs/tnt uses are essentially the 2015 edits that were made for the digital download versions, which only kept the Fox logo and fanfare for ANH. Otherwise they’re identical to the 2011 blu-ray transfer which itself still uses the 2004 Lowry master.

Author
Time

You buried the lede…you can get a free Maz pin.

Author
Time

Bummer. Definitely going to snag a couple of those discounted posters, though.