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I’m surprised that none of the pre-2012 theatrical versions have made it onto the Spleen.

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  • Howard Berk
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cpalmer2k said:

One other thought… has anybody checked the version of “Titanic” streaming on Netflix in the UK and Canada to see if it is the pre-2012 version?

I’m 90% sure it’s the 2012 version.

Just repeat to yourself “It’s just a film, I should really just relax”

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Does it have the full aspect ratio? That’s an important thing to consider because Netflix is a notorious online offender with this butchery. Also is it true HD?

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  • Howard Berk
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I think we might finally have a way to piece together the film as it originally aired. Saturday VH1 here in the US aired the “TV” version of Titanic with the alternative version of the drawing scene. The transfer was beautiful though, and in the correct aspect ratio. The only logo/bug on the screen was a tiny VH1 logo that sat in the black bar space at the bottom of the screen. It didn’t show on any part of the movie itself. I missed the first half of the film, but they are scheduled to re-air it two more times. I’ve set both to record just to be safe. I didn’t detect any censorship other than the drawing scene but I plan to watch it all the way through when it re-airs to make sure.

If it is complete as I believe it would be very easy to edit the drawing scene from the 2012 version into this TV version of the pre-2012 version to make it complete as it originally was.

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cpalmer2k said:

I think we might finally have a way to piece together the film as it originally aired. Saturday VH1 here in the US aired the “TV” version of Titanic with the alternative version of the drawing scene. The transfer was beautiful though, and in the correct aspect ratio. The only logo/bug on the screen was a tiny VH1 logo that sat in the black bar space at the bottom of the screen. It didn’t show on any part of the movie itself. I missed the first half of the film, but they are scheduled to re-air it two more times. I’ve set both to record just to be safe. I didn’t detect any censorship other than the drawing scene but I plan to watch it all the way through when it re-airs to make sure.

If it is complete as I believe it would be very easy to edit the drawing scene from the 2012 version into this TV version of the pre-2012 version to make it complete as it originally was.

That’s great to hear! Keep us posted.

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open matte pre-2012 1080p HDTVRip is up on rutracker

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Colson said:

cpalmer2k said:

I think we might finally have a way to piece together the film as it originally aired. Saturday VH1 here in the US aired the “TV” version of Titanic with the alternative version of the drawing scene. The transfer was beautiful though, and in the correct aspect ratio. The only logo/bug on the screen was a tiny VH1 logo that sat in the black bar space at the bottom of the screen. It didn’t show on any part of the movie itself. I missed the first half of the film, but they are scheduled to re-air it two more times. I’ve set both to record just to be safe. I didn’t detect any censorship other than the drawing scene but I plan to watch it all the way through when it re-airs to make sure.

If it is complete as I believe it would be very easy to edit the drawing scene from the 2012 version into this TV version of the pre-2012 version to make it complete as it originally was.

That’s great to hear! Keep us posted.

Unfortunately this is a bust. There are some edits in the movie after all. They’ve partially edited some of the profanity at least, but not completely. For example where he said g-d d–n liar it is now d–n liar everywhere. It IS the cleanest and probably best quality cable airing I’ve ever seen though because the VH1 logo is completely out of the picture, and the transfer is very good, but it isn’t the uncut pre-2012 version we needed

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Hey, it’s something.

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Has anyone managed to check the Netflix version yet?

I’m still checking my EPG every week for further re-airings by C4 and its sister channels.

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From Rutracker:
Titanic [1997, the United States, romance, HDTV 1080p] 25.07 GB
Posted 26-Jun-08

Looks really good to me and pre-2012.

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Thanks, found it with the upload date that you included. 😃

Looks very good indeed. My C4 HDTV recording clocks in at 9.15 GB and that includes the commercial breaks whilst this one is 25.07 GB and commercial free so there’s no contest. The running time is listed as 03:06:49 and the official theatrical is 3hrs 15m. The credits have probably been time compressed or removed.

Perhaps someone who has downloaded it can confirm?

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JayArgonaut said:

Thanks, found it with the upload date that you included. 😃

Looks very good indeed. My C4 HDTV recording clocks in at 9.15 GB and that includes the commercial breaks whilst this one is 25.07 GB and commercial free so there’s no contest. The running time is listed as 03:06:49 and the official theatrical is 3hrs 15m. The credits have probably been time compressed or removed.

Perhaps someone who has downloaded it can confirm?

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The answer is: the time difference is from the fact that it is 25fps. (It says on the page)

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Now all I get is an error message on that site that won’t translate 😦

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stretch009 said:

The answer is: the time difference is from the fact that it is 25fps. (It says on the page)

Got it. I had to do some reading in order to understand, as I’m not an expert on such things.

https://www.wired.com/2014/08/wtf-just-happened-soap-opera-effect/

https://www.cnet.com/uk/news/what-is-1080p24/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/blog/2014-08-higher-frame-rate-television-for-future-broadcasts-at-the-commonwealth-games-but-i-already-have-a-100hz-tv

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I know this is slightly off topic, but this week I did (Finally!) locate a copy of the fan edited Titanic Q2 Extended Edition. The version I found is the full 40GB Blu-Ray edition that incorporates ALL the deleted scenes to make the movie 34 minutes longer than it originally was. (Sadly it uses the BD material, so it is post-2012 as well)

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Yeah, I saw that listed on the Spleen. Have you watched it and if so, what’s your verdict? Do you prefer the fan edit or the theatrical?

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JayArgonaut said:

Yeah, I saw that listed on the Spleen. Have you watched it and if so, what’s your verdict? Do you prefer the fan edit or the theatrical?

Not yet, haven’t had a long enough block of time to sit down and view it. I’m looking forward to it though, I have been searching for the full version of it for awhile now.

I did download the Russian version of “Titanic” listed above and it is definitely the older version and appears to be complete.

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cpalmer2k said:

JayArgonaut said:

Yeah, I saw that listed on the Spleen. Have you watched it and if so, what’s your verdict? Do you prefer the fan edit or the theatrical?

I did download the Russian version of “Titanic” listed above and it is definitely the older version and appears to be complete.

It’s on a Russian site and I think it has Russian audio as well as English. That definitely doesn’t mean it’s a “Russian version”, it could be from the UK, etc;,. I’ve been downloading from Rutracker long enough to know that.

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stretch009 said:

cpalmer2k said:

JayArgonaut said:

Yeah, I saw that listed on the Spleen. Have you watched it and if so, what’s your verdict? Do you prefer the fan edit or the theatrical?

I did download the Russian version of “Titanic” listed above and it is definitely the older version and appears to be complete.

It’s on a Russian site and I think it has Russian audio as well as English. That definitely doesn’t mean it’s a “Russian version”, it could be from the UK, etc;,. I’ve been downloading from Rutracker long enough to know that.

True, I wasn’t sure what exactly to call it so I figured “Russian version” would be clear to those following. You’re right, it does have both English & Russian audio. Russian is primary, English is the second stream. It is definitely from the European realm though because of the frame rate, and the 21st Century Fox opening instead of the Paramount one we get here in the USA.

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cpalmer2k said:

stretch009 said:

cpalmer2k said:

JayArgonaut said:

Yeah, I saw that listed on the Spleen. Have you watched it and if so, what’s your verdict? Do you prefer the fan edit or the theatrical?

I did download the Russian version of “Titanic” listed above and it is definitely the older version and appears to be complete.

It’s on a Russian site and I think it has Russian audio as well as English. That definitely doesn’t mean it’s a “Russian version”, it could be from the UK, etc;,. I’ve been downloading from Rutracker long enough to know that.

and the 21st Century Fox opening instead of the Paramount one we get here in the USA.

Interesting, I didn’t know that. Almost everything on Rutracker has several Russian audio first and than one or two English audio. Some smaller files are only Russian audio.

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Okay, so I just finished downloading the same file. I want to convert it to a blu ray-compliant file but there’s just one thing I need to know. Is it interlaced or progressive? The mediainfo output says Progressive but you can’t always trust that. By playing it back in WMP and VLC it does appear to be in fact Progressive.

If someone that knows more than me about such things could help out it would be much appreciated. Also, I’m planning on upping the converted one to the spleen. Here’s the mediainfo:

General
ID : 1 (0x1)
Complete name : G:\Titanic.HDTV.1080p.H264.MIF.ts
Format : MPEG-TS
File size : 25.1 GiB
Duration : 3h 6mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 19.2 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Main@L4
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 7s 80ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 17.4 Mbps
Maximum bit rate : 55.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 088 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.334
Stream size : 14.7 MiB (0%)
Color range : Full
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709

Audio #1
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 3h 6mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Frame rate : 31.250 fps (1536 spf)
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : 27ms
Stream size : 599 MiB (2%)
Language : Russian

Audio #2
ID : 4353 (0x1101)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 3h 6mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Frame rate : 31.250 fps (1536 spf)
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : 27ms
Stream size : 513 MiB (2%)
Language : English

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Not sure on that, but if you find a way to do it let me know. The software I typically use for Blu-Ray creation can’t handle the 25fps. It turns the audio into an awful sped up chipmunk sounding track. I tried locking the frame setting in, and it still doesn’t do it right.

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Why not putting this one on the Spleen so that anyone can get it and do whatever they want with it?

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cpalmer2k said:

JayArgonaut said:

Yeah, I saw that listed on the Spleen. Have you watched it and if so, what’s your verdict? Do you prefer the fan edit or the theatrical?

Not yet, haven’t had a long enough block of time to sit down and view it. I’m looking forward to it though, I have been searching for the full version of it for awhile now.

I did download the Russian version of “Titanic” listed above and it is definitely the older version and appears to be complete.

You ended up with more than you bargained for, an uncut pre-2012 version, a cut version that you can show to your students and also an extended fan edit. 😃

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JayArgonaut said:

cpalmer2k said:

JayArgonaut said:

Yeah, I saw that listed on the Spleen. Have you watched it and if so, what’s your verdict? Do you prefer the fan edit or the theatrical?

Not yet, haven’t had a long enough block of time to sit down and view it. I’m looking forward to it though, I have been searching for the full version of it for awhile now.

I did download the Russian version of “Titanic” listed above and it is definitely the older version and appears to be complete.

You ended up with more than you bargained for, an uncut pre-2012 version, a cut version that you can show to your students and also an extended fan edit. 😃

Still looking for the “Cut” version for my students. The US TV version isn’t truly cut, as I say they just removed things like the g-d in front of g-d d–n, or the bull in front of s–t. The rest of the sentences are there, which makes ZERO sense to me.