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NeverarGreat
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The Force Awakens: Official Review Thread - ** SPOILERS **
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26-Apr-2017, 1:32 AM

Mocata said:

rodneyfaile said:

Rey was able to do a mind trick without even seeing it done or being trained regarding it, but she did experience Kylo reading her thoughts, so she isn’t entirely unfamiliar with the idea of manipulating with someone’s mind.

This is the thing that bugs me, and it’s because of the execution - we don’t see her thought process at all. I came to this conclusion as well, but I shouldn’t have to mentally edit the film for them.

This exactly. Most of these Mary Sue accusations are happening not because of misogyny or because people don’t like her character but because there’s one too many conveniences and assumptions made on the part of the writers/director, and the mind trick is the proverbial straw that broke the camel’s back. Each one of these attributes alone is forgivable, but for us to buy the mind trick we must assume that she’s learned everything about this mind trick from Kylo despite the fact that he doesn’t actually mind trick anyone in the film, or that she knew enough about the ways of the Jedi to use the exact same sentence structure as Ben and Luke in the original trilogy. I find both of those assumptions to be a bridge too far, and it jolts me out of the movie. I’m currently working on a way to fix this in my fanedit, btw.

Honestly R2 magically coming alive is the biggest face palm in the movie to me. I don’t get it and I don’t like whole the map thing.

The reasoning I use is that BB-8’s suggestion that the map was in R2’s backup data caused R2 to begin searching the data, and he finishes the search at the end of the film. TFA-Restructured 2.0 will have this change 😃