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Sougouk said:

nickyd47 said:

Sougouk said:

dahmage said:

SilverWook said:

dahmage said:

i wonder if they will ever perfect behind-your-face 3D. then things really could sneak up on you in movies.

They tested Feel A Round movies in the 70’s, but it was too intense for average movie goers. 😉
https://youtu.be/TCq_nzlou0Q

LOL, that is insane! popcorn for $1? :p

Yeah, for 4$ you get to see a movie and eat a small popcorn. Not bad.

I paid 16.25$ for my 3D IMAX ticket of The Force Awakens

Yeah, as did I. I just wish the movie theaters would have reserved seats for all of their rooms, and not just the AVX/IMAX rooms.

Amen. The nice AMC theater me and my bestie go to for Star Wars movies has deluxe seating, which is assigned. Its so nice to not have to go an hour early and sit. I wish all theaters did that.

It seems like people are really embracing the new characters. In fact, the big question people ask me now about Star Wars is, “Are Finn and Poe gay lovers?” And really how the f*ck would I know? My second husband left me for a man, so my gaydar isn’t exactly what you’d call Death Star level quality. ----Carrie Fisher

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Fang Zei said:

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May the Force be with Harmy then.

Hey, look at it this way. When Harmy finally gets around to finishing his 1080p re-do of the despecialized trilogy Disney will have something even better: a 4k transfer of the real thing.

Their 4K scan will be of the special editions. Harmy is the best we can expect for the foreseeable future. I feel better now that I’ve accepted that.

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Now more than ever we should thank Harmy and others who have worked so hard to preserve a piece of history. We are very fortunate to have them around. They should be knighted as Jedi and have their own holiday.

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The mainstream internet media have picked up on the Kathleen Kennedy statements:

http://movieweb.com/star-wars-classic-trilogy-disney-wont-alter-restore/

They all agree that Kennedy was referring to any alteration of the final cut, including restoring previous cuts of the films. I suppose this may create some buzz on the twitter feeds, so let’s hope for a more extensive statement from Lucasfilm/Disney on the subject sooner rather than later.

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DrDre said:

The mainstream internet media have picked up on the Kathleen Kennedy statements:

http://movieweb.com/star-wars-classic-trilogy-disney-wont-alter-restore/

They all agree that Kennedy was referring to any alteration of the final cut, including restoring previous cuts of the films. I suppose this may create some buzz on the twitter feeds, so let’s hope for a more extensive statement from Lucasfilm/Disney on the subject sooner rather than later.

I don’t believe we will see them release the unaltered versions any time soon, but the question was very poorly worded. It is not definitive in the least. The issue has still not been addressed properly in my opinion.

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DrDre said:

The mainstream internet media have picked up on the Kathleen Kennedy statements:

http://movieweb.com/star-wars-classic-trilogy-disney-wont-alter-restore/

They all agree that Kennedy was referring to any alteration of the final cut, including restoring previous cuts of the films. I suppose this may create some buzz on the twitter feeds, so let’s hope for a more extensive statement from Lucasfilm/Disney on the subject sooner rather than later.

I don’t see why keeping George’s version as it is precludes any possibility of the original cuts being released with his version.

Yes, the guy interviewing Kennedy should’ve worded his question better, but all she really said was that they’re not going to alter George’s version. That doesn’t really tell us anything either way about the unaltereds.

The situation with Fox is the reason for their silence, I’m convinced of it. Just wait, after May of 2020 we’ll suddenly get an announcement.

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Tobar said:

Fang Zei said:

Like I said, I really wish I could find the audio of this. TFN had a page with four audio files broken up by the people being interviewed (Kershner, Hamill, Jim Ward, and the lowry guys). I don’t remember now how I found it, this was of course way back in September of '04.

http://theforce.net/latestnews/story/Lucasfilm_DVD_Press_Day_Audio_Files_82683.asp

Thank you, Tobar!

Here is the direct link to the interview I was talking about. Jump to about 4:10 and you will hear John Lowry say in no uncertain terms that they were working at HD resolution and not 2k:

http://download.theforce.net/interviews/sw-dvd-q&a.mp3

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Fang Zei said:

DrDre said:

The mainstream internet media have picked up on the Kathleen Kennedy statements:

http://movieweb.com/star-wars-classic-trilogy-disney-wont-alter-restore/

They all agree that Kennedy was referring to any alteration of the final cut, including restoring previous cuts of the films. I suppose this may create some buzz on the twitter feeds, so let’s hope for a more extensive statement from Lucasfilm/Disney on the subject sooner rather than later.

I don’t see why keeping George’s version as it is precludes any possibility of the original cuts being released with his version.

Yes, the guy interviewing Kennedy should’ve worded his question better, but all she really said was that they’re not going to alter George’s version. That doesn’t really tell us anything either way about the unaltereds.

The situation with Fox is the reason for their silence, I’m convinced of it. Just wait, after May of 2020 we’ll suddenly get an announcement.

I would say, because as Kennedy states they will always remain his. She won’t touch the final cuts of the OT, which she states in no uncertain terms. In other words, any decisions regarding the release of alternate versions of the OT are Lucas’ prerogative.

Kennedy is not stupid. She understood the question, the same way all the internet news media understood the question. Nobody is interpreting the question and subsequent answer in any other way, except those that refuse to accept the inevitable.

Given the statements she made, it is inconceivable, that they will release the OOT without Lucas’ approval, especially since he has stated time, and time again, he doesn’t want them released. Is it possible he will change his mind? Sure, but it’s unlikely.

Fox is a non issue. Disney already has a distribution deal with Fox for the first six films, as is evident from the fact, that Disney and Fox jointly released all of them in 2015.

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With that (vague) statement Kennedy unintentionally advertized Harmys Despecialized Editions. That guy who sells them illegally on ebay will have a prosporing business year. Even the prizes for the GOUT DVDs could rise further.

Rogue One is redundant. Just play the first mission of DARK FORCES.
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‘The best visual effects in the world will not compensate for a story told badly.’ - V.E.S.
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Haarspalter said:

With that (vague) statement Kennedy unintentionally advertized Harmys Despecialized Editions. That guy who sells them illegally on ebay will have a prosporing business year. Even the prizes for the GOUT DVDs could rise further.

Not to derail the thread, but how is he able to sell those on ebay without any repercussions? If it’s that out in the open why make people jump through so many hoops to download them?

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DrDre said:

Fang Zei said:

DrDre said:

The mainstream internet media have picked up on the Kathleen Kennedy statements:

http://movieweb.com/star-wars-classic-trilogy-disney-wont-alter-restore/

They all agree that Kennedy was referring to any alteration of the final cut, including restoring previous cuts of the films. I suppose this may create some buzz on the twitter feeds, so let’s hope for a more extensive statement from Lucasfilm/Disney on the subject sooner rather than later.

I don’t see why keeping George’s version as it is precludes any possibility of the original cuts being released with his version.

Yes, the guy interviewing Kennedy should’ve worded his question better, but all she really said was that they’re not going to alter George’s version. That doesn’t really tell us anything either way about the unaltereds.

The situation with Fox is the reason for their silence, I’m convinced of it. Just wait, after May of 2020 we’ll suddenly get an announcement.

I would say, because as Kennedy states they will always remain his. She won’t touch the final cuts of the OT, which she states in no uncertain terms. In other words, any decisions regarding the release of alternate versions of the OT are Lucas’ prerogative.

Kennedy is not stupid. She understood the question, the same way all the internet news media understood the question. Nobody is interpreting the question and subsequent answer in any other way, except those that refuse to accept the inevitable.

Given the statements she made, it is unconceivable, that they will release the OOT without Lucas’ approval, especially since he has stated time, and time again, he doesn’t want them released. Is it possible he will change his mind? Sure, but it’s unlikely.

Fox is a non issue. Disney already has a distribution deal with Fox for the first six films, as is evident from the fact, that Disney and Fox jointly released all of them in 2015.

It’s a non issue if Disney doesn’t mind giving some of the profits from a guaranteed-to-sell-in-vast-numbers OOT blu-ray release to Fox. If they wait until 2020, they only have to give Fox their percentage on ANH.

It would be awkward for Disney/Lucasfilm to explain it in such blunt terms. That’s why we haven’t heard anything on the subject.

As for the George thing, we’re just going to have to agree to disagree. Obviously they’re not going to alter the SE without his permission, but I think we’re taking the extreme interpretation of that somehow also meaning they’ll never restore the original versions.

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rodneyfaile said:

Haarspalter said:

With that (vague) statement Kennedy unintentionally advertized Harmys Despecialized Editions. That guy who sells them illegally on ebay will have a prosporing business year. Even the prizes for the GOUT DVDs could rise further.

Not to derail the thread

You can’t derail something that hasn’t been railed in a very long time.

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rodneyfaile said:

Haarspalter said:

With that (vague) statement Kennedy unintentionally advertized Harmys Despecialized Editions. That guy who sells them illegally on ebay will have a prosporing business year. Even the prizes for the GOUT DVDs could rise further.

Not to derail the thread, but how is he able to sell those on ebay without any repercussions? If it’s that out in the open why make people jump through so many hoops to download them?

Repercussions from whom?

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Did Lucasfilm ever take legal action against ebay sellers of the ld-to-dvd preservations pre-GOUT?

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I’m with Fang. I think the 2020 deal is the hold up. Just my opinion, I don’t really think George cares anymore. By the end of his run as head of LF, his opinion on restoring the OUT became more ‘I don’t wanna spend money on it’ as opposed to ‘I don’t wanna release it (ever)’. Now it’s not his money. Add to that the John Landis quote if you are still willing to take that with a grain of salt.

And finally the fact he released the GOUT. Yes they were released to stop the selling of bootlegs but just the same it pushed Lucas to agree to release the originals again in some form. Not to mention those 2006 DVD sets were supposed to be ‘limited editions’ yet they were repackaged again in a box set in 2008 which remained on the regular video market until the BDs. If Lucas was really adament about not having the originals available again he would have stuck with the ‘limited edition’ notion of the '06 DVDs or for that matter not released the GOUT at all.

There’s a lot that can be taken with what Kathleen Kennedy said but as Fang said I don’t think it fully ruled out a future release with both cuts. My interpretation of what she said was there will be no further changes because as she said 'those will always be (George)‘s’ i.e. she won’t tamper with someone else’s film(s). This almost goes back to the issue Lucas himself protested in the 1980s about movies being colorized. I don’t think it fully rules out a potential release with both versions especially when 5 of the 6 films that Fox still has rights to fully go to LF/Disney in 2020.

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Fang Zei said:

DrDre said:

Fang Zei said:

DrDre said:

The mainstream internet media have picked up on the Kathleen Kennedy statements:

http://movieweb.com/star-wars-classic-trilogy-disney-wont-alter-restore/

They all agree that Kennedy was referring to any alteration of the final cut, including restoring previous cuts of the films. I suppose this may create some buzz on the twitter feeds, so let’s hope for a more extensive statement from Lucasfilm/Disney on the subject sooner rather than later.

I don’t see why keeping George’s version as it is precludes any possibility of the original cuts being released with his version.

Yes, the guy interviewing Kennedy should’ve worded his question better, but all she really said was that they’re not going to alter George’s version. That doesn’t really tell us anything either way about the unaltereds.

The situation with Fox is the reason for their silence, I’m convinced of it. Just wait, after May of 2020 we’ll suddenly get an announcement.

I would say, because as Kennedy states they will always remain his. She won’t touch the final cuts of the OT, which she states in no uncertain terms. In other words, any decisions regarding the release of alternate versions of the OT are Lucas’ prerogative.

Kennedy is not stupid. She understood the question, the same way all the internet news media understood the question. Nobody is interpreting the question and subsequent answer in any other way, except those that refuse to accept the inevitable.

Given the statements she made, it is unconceivable, that they will release the OOT without Lucas’ approval, especially since he has stated time, and time again, he doesn’t want them released. Is it possible he will change his mind? Sure, but it’s unlikely.

Fox is a non issue. Disney already has a distribution deal with Fox for the first six films, as is evident from the fact, that Disney and Fox jointly released all of them in 2015.

It’s a non issue if Disney doesn’t mind giving some of the profits from a guaranteed-to-sell-in-vast-numbers OOT blu-ray release to Fox. If they wait until 2020, they only have to give Fox their percentage on ANH.

It would be awkward for Disney/Lucasfilm to explain it in such blunt terms. That’s why we haven’t heard anything on the subject.

As for the George thing, we’re just going to have to agree to disagree. Obviously they’re not going to alter the SE without his permission, but I think we’re taking the extreme interpretation of that somehow also meaning they’ll never restore the original versions.

If it happens, I will be ecstatic, but I’m not going to spend another three years hoping for a miracle. First it was the 40th anniversary, which was THE time for a release, now it is 2020, and when that date passes, it will be 2027 for the 50th anniversary. It reminds me of those people, that continually predict the end of the world, only to argue a mistake was made in interpreting some ancient text, once the prediction doesn’t pan out.

I will peak in on Mike Verta’s Legacy Edition forum every now and then, since his restoration is a reality at least, but other than that, I will just enjoy our fan preservation community, and whatever new films may be worth seeing in the future.

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Fang Zei said:

Did Lucasfilm ever take legal action against ebay sellers of the ld-to-dvd preservations pre-GOUT?

Not legal action, but rather a legal ‘countermeasure’: the 2006 GOUT DVDs.

Maybe in the future LucasFilm will consider such a similar ‘countermeasure’ against the Despecialized Editions … by releasing the Theatrical Cuts?

Rogue One is redundant. Just play the first mission of DARK FORCES.
The hallmark of a corrupt leader: Being surrounded by yes men.
‘The best visual effects in the world will not compensate for a story told badly.’ - V.E.S.
‘Star Wars is a buffet, enjoy the stuff you want, and leave the rest.’ - SilverWook

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Haarspalter said:

Fang Zei said:

Did Lucasfilm ever take legal action against ebay sellers of the ld-to-dvd preservations pre-GOUT?

Not legal action as far as i know, but rather a legal ‘countermeasure’: the 2006 GOUT DVDs.

Maybe in the future LucasFilm will consider such asimilar ‘countermeasure’ against the Despecialized Editions … by releasing the Theatrical Cuts?

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Rogue One is redundant. Just play the first mission of DARK FORCES.
The hallmark of a corrupt leader: Being surrounded by yes men.
‘The best visual effects in the world will not compensate for a story told badly.’ - V.E.S.
‘Star Wars is a buffet, enjoy the stuff you want, and leave the rest.’ - SilverWook

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Then if Disney/Lucasfilm aren’t going after those actually selling the despecialized versions on ebay, they why not just host the free downloads right here on this site instead of hard to access torrent sites?

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rodneyfaile said:

Then if Disney/Lucasfilm aren’t going after those actually selling the despecialized versions on ebay, they why not just host the free downloads right here on this site instead of hard to access torrent sites?

Torrent sites aren’t remotely hard to access.

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I hope all these new click bait articles get Lucasfilm to say something