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Post #106911

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MeBeJedi
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My review of Episode III (minor, minor spoilers)
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Date created
20-May-2005, 7:35 AM
"Just because they (Palps, Plague, or both) created him doesnt mean they were aware of the Prophecy, or doing it to fullfill the prophecy."

Yet Anakin showed all the signs of being the Chosen One at a young age. If Sidious wasn't aware of the prophecy, then he didn't know everything there was to know, which is mandatory for his 10-year-plan to work as flawlessly as it did.

Sorry, but he can't be perfect for the one-in-a-million shot and yet be imperfect on the day-to-day stuff. That simply defies belief.

"Didnt Obi-Wan say that Sifo Dyas was killed before the Kaminos said he ordered the the clone army?"

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Yes, Master. They say a Master Sifo-Dyas
placed the order for a clone army at the request of the
Senate almost ten years ago. I was under the impression he
was killed before that. Did the Council ever authorize the
creation of a clone army?


As a matter of, he did, which is another reason why the LOE explanation is ridiculous. Dooku happened upon the one Jedi who secretly ordered the clones without the Council's knowledge? That's just stupid. It makes far more sense for Dooku to kill and impersonate Sifo for the clone order, and then blame it on the Jedi. This also fits into the general timeline implied by Obi-wan's statement to the Council.

Oh well.

"One other thing, Anakins 'appointment' to the Council and not being made a master. While he might have been equal (or above) to the other Jedi in power/ability that does not in any way (at least in my opinion) make him ready to be a master. I dont know what the trials are, the clone wars cartoon hints that anakin has essentially gone through the same tests as the trials would put him through, but i feel that the Jedi Council's reason for not making him a master was because he was emotionally not ready."

I agree with you. What the Council should have done is explain to Anakin that while Palpatine had placed him on the Council, it was not done so according to Jedi rules, and therefore his placement was provisional (kinda like a battlefield promotion.) Anakin wasn't ready for the council....though again, this reaction is precisely what Palpatine was planning on.

"Second: Plagueous could not have created Anakin. Plagueous lived a long time ago, and if he had created Anakin, he'd be much older in TPM. He would not be a little kid."

Ironically, I am mixed on this. I'll have to watch again, but I was under the impression that Palpatine said that he was Plagueous' apprentice. Everything I've read about Palpatine states that he is a "normal" human being, meaning no super-aging, and yet he said Plagueous' story was a legend told by the Jedi?

Was this also made up? I'm guessing so, but it just seems rather wonky to me.

"Its possible that Plagueous created Anakin without Palpatine knowing"

Sorry, but the folks who keep bring this up need to learn the difference between what's "possible" and what is "probable". Hell, I could easily say it's "possible" that Plageous created Palpatine by influencing midis, or that Palpatine created Jar Jar as such.

Point being, anything's possible, but simply pointing that out does not make it in any way probable. It's a ridiculous addition to speculate that Palpatine might have created Anakin, and it doesn't gel with the rest of the Saga either. It kinda reminds me of all the Cloners who showed how it was "possible" for Palpatine to be a clone of Sidious.

" That's all a moot point.

Obi wan first met Anakin as an adult during the clone wars, and he was amazed at how strong the force was with him. He decided to take it upon himself to train him as a Jedi, just as Yoda had trained him in the past, NOT by Qui Gon Jin, who didn't bloody exist. He thought he could instruct as well as Yoda, but Anakin eventually went over to the dark side because Obi Wan wasn't nearly as good an instructor as he thought."


Then your issue is with the OT, not the PT.