flametitan said:
It really feels like you’re stripping it of its teeth if somebody can control it, even if it takes far more training than not using it.This kind of ties into something I wanted to post about TLJ in general. The Sith philosophy has a huge emphasis on the strength of the individual and that’s something I want Luke and Rey to teach their new students. It wouldn’t take anything away from the Dark Side as those who don’t control it will still “fall”. The allure of wanting to use the Dark Side exclusively will still be there but this will add an extra layer to the struggle future characters will face.
I’m not too big on that. I want them to focus less on bettering themselves and on bettering those who aren’t so attuned to the Force.
It can be disproportionate but focusing on the strength of the is the one thing from the Sith philosophy that I want to be used in Luke’s new order.
They shouldn’t be monks seeking perfection of self, rather community leaders resolving conflict without violence (but detatched from the actual political ladder so that no force may have sway over them other than the Living Force around them).
I can see the ancient Jedi believing that having a disconnect between the politics and their order would be advantageous as some taint from the political side could seep into their order. Also I think the Jedi should only be brought into the fold for the most serious of circumstances.
I wouldn’t call it mere contrivance when an entire plot point is elite stormtroopers start missing because a dude was praying. It’s very clearly implied that the will of the Force was with him, and let him get to the Master Switch. Ergo, the Force appears to have some kind of will beyond that which the Jedi, Sith, Ren, and whatever Luke has in mind provide.
I didn’t say it was a plot contrivance. I said it was akin to a plot contrivance as both are examples of The Force bending things so that certain events may transpire. So I guess we agree on that point but it doesn’t change how I see the Dark Side and the Light.