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Post #1066113

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flametitan
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * SPOILER THREAD *
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14-Apr-2017, 7:24 PM

Lord Haseo said:

flametitan said:
It really feels like you’re stripping it of its teeth if somebody can control it, even if it takes far more training than not using it.

This kind of ties into something I wanted to post about TLJ in general. The Sith philosophy has a huge emphasis on the strength of the individual and that’s something I want Luke and Rey to teach their new students. It wouldn’t take anything away from the Dark Side as those who don’t control it will still “fall”. The allure of wanting to use the Dark Side exclusively will still be there but this will add an extra layer to the struggle future characters will face.

I’m not too big on that. I want them to focus less on bettering themselves and on bettering those who aren’t so attuned to the Force. They shouldn’t be monks seeking perfection of self, rather community leaders resolving conflict without violence (but detatched from the actual political ladder so that no force may have sway over them other than the Living Force around them).

From what I know that only counts for stuff like being able to duel instinctively while contemplating something or conjuring power to unleash a powerful Force Ability and for instinctively raising up a Force Shield within a fraction of a second before a Force Push/Wave.

Duelling instinctively it is indeed. However, to me it represents even less than instinct and just letting go of your surroundings. The Force knows what it’s doing, let it fight for you instead.

I thought Chirrut wasn’t Force Sensitive…

Which is my point.

I recall reading that he used a bunch of other things to help him achieve his feats. If he isn’t Force Sensitive he was just trusting the Force to make things fall into place just like with the plot contrivances.

I wouldn’t call it mere contrivance when an entire plot point is elite stormtroopers start missing because a dude was praying. It’s very clearly implied that the will of the Force was with him, and let him get to the Master Switch. Ergo, the Force appears to have some kind of will beyond that which the Jedi, Sith, Ren, and whatever Luke has in mind provide.