But where
did you find
those clips?later
-DC
Please enlighten us, R1.
I can’t confirm the Star Wars clips are from the SE, since they don’t contain those scenes,
however in most likely scenarios, they are in my opinion.I will post some other shots from them, and more from the ESB clips.
They aren’t publicly available in the higher bitrates, and are scaled down to 1080p.
R1
Didn’t we determine beyond a reasonable doubt that it’s still the SE?
The lightsaber flashes during the Vader/Kenobi duel was the giveaway, IIRC.
I think that assumption was made prior to the SSE being released. I honestly think the lightsabers look like how they appear there.
Very interesting…
What about the shot of the x-wings rolling off and diving towards the death star and the “pov” shot going into the trench? Were those re-comp’d for the SE and, if so, are there any telltale signs of which version we’re looking at in RMW’s reel?
I can’t confirm the Star Wars clips are from the SE, since they don’t contain those scenes,
however in most likely scenarios, they are in my opinion.I will post some other shots from them, and more from the ESB clips.
They aren’t publicly available in the higher bitrates, and are scaled down to 1080p.
R1
Didn’t we determine beyond a reasonable doubt that it’s still the SE?
The lightsaber flashes during the Vader/Kenobi duel was the giveaway, IIRC.
I think that assumption was made prior to the SSE being released. I honestly think the lightsabers look like how they appear there.
Very interesting…
What about the shot of the x-wings rolling off and diving towards the death star and the “pov” shot going into the trench? Were those re-comp’d for the SE and, if so, are there any telltale signs of which version we’re looking at in RMW’s reel?
I don’t think so. There weren’t as many recomps in Star Wars and Empire. Most shots were just replaced outright. And if they did recomp it, it’s seamless.
Yes, the flashes are the same as the ones from the SE, so that is definitely a sign confirming the SE.
Here’s one more frame showing it:
http://imgur.com/Pc2yPZ3
Here’s another one from ESB:
http://imgur.com/VM3AkvF
If you know someone at RMW / Reliance, they would have had access to the clips,
if they were in the restoration department.
R1
Why are the black bars so darn thick in the diagonal screenshots?
That ESB screenshot looks beautiful. They DNR’ed the hell out of that film for the Blu-ray, so seeing this (even with grain reduction) is a sight to behold.
“That said, there is nothing wrong with mocking prequel lovers and belittling their bad taste.” - Alderaan, 2017
MGGA (Make GOUT Great Again):
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Return-of-the-GOUT-Preservation-and-Restoration/id/55707
For what it’s worth, here’s the lightsaber flashes from that video compared with the GOUT and DVD/Blu:
Here are my comparisons from 3 years ago god.
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So he won’t admit the fact that he’s using yet another account despite the fact that it’s obvious to everyone, and he’s also repeating stuff from three years ago already posted on page 2 of this thread…
I’m so glad he’s back. And so glad he hasn’t changed a bit.
I was pretty convinced at the outset that this new 4k scan was done as a basis for the 3D conversion.
Then we got distracted for a while by the fact that a 4k home video format was a thing that was happening.
After seeing those diagonal degraining shots, I may have swung back around to my original assertion that this was done as a basis for the 3D versions.
So he won’t admit the fact that he’s using yet another account despite the fact that it’s obvious to everyone, and he’s also repeating stuff from three years ago already posted on page 2 of this thread…
I’m so glad he’s back. And so glad he hasn’t changed a bit.
Isn’t it a possibility that the original version would have to be “reassembled” due to the negative being conformed to the SE? If that’s the case maybe they didn’t think changing back flashes that last only a few frames was all that necessary. I know I wouldn’t. Changing them in the first place was of course unnecessary, but once it’s already been done, I don’t think it matters enough to put it back.
Lightsaber flashes are 2004 changes, which as far as we know were never printed to film.
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Ah.
The grain removal tests are decent. There are also black and white test shots too.
Some seem a little too scrubbed though. Also, note the color correction is not
that consistent.
The stories of a personal Technicolor reference for Star Wars, is actually the
same one from a private individual who lent it to Lucasfilm, since they didn’t
have one available at the time. This print is the one that has been scanned
and is the basis for current fan restorations in 4k.
R1
The grain removal tests are decent. There are also black and white test shots too.
Some seem a little too scrubbed though. Also, note the color correction is not
that consistent.The stories of a personal Technicolor reference for Star Wars, is actually the
same one from a private individual who lent it to Lucasfilm, since they didn’t
have one available at the time. This print is the one that has been scanned
and is the basis for current fan restorations in 4k.R1
This is a confusing post, especially for those who haven’t been following this thread (such as myself).
You have posted some stills. Where did you get them? What are we seeing in them? Are they downrezzed from a higher quality source? If so, what is this source, have you seen said source in full, and do you still have access to it?
Do we know what kind of source the clips in the Vimeo link are from? Same source as rogue1’s stills?
Are these clips/stills WIP or finished?
Are you saying that a Technicolor dye-transfer print was scanned for restoration? If so, by whom? If it was by an official entity, they would be acting stupid, as IB prints are ill suited to proper restorations due to high contrast, and should only be used for rough colour checks (sayeth Robert A. Harris).
What 4K fan restorations are there? Are you talking about Mike Verta’s hyped-up-but-not-for-public-consumption restoration?
CONTEXT, PEOPLE!
The grain removal tests are decent. There are also black and white test shots too.
Some seem a little too scrubbed though. Also, note the color correction is not
that consistent.The stories of a personal Technicolor reference for Star Wars, is actually the
same one from a private individual who lent it to Lucasfilm, since they didn’t
have one available at the time. This print is the one that has been scanned
and is the basis for current fan restorations in 4k.R1
This is a confusing post, especially for those who haven’t been following this thread (such as myself).
You have posted some stills. Where did you get them? What are we seeing in them? Are they downrezzed from a higher quality source? If so, what is this source, have you seen said source in full, and do you still have access to it?
Do we know what kind of source the clips in the Vimeo link are from? Same source as rogue1’s stills?
Are these clips/stills WIP or finished?
Are you saying that a Technicolor dye-transfer print was scanned for restoration? If so, by whom? If it was by an official entity, they would be acting stupid, as IB prints are ill suited to proper restorations due to high contrast, and should only be used for rough colour checks (sayeth Robert A. Harris).
What 4K fan restorations are there? Are you talking about Mike Verta’s hyped-up-but-not-for-public-consumption restoration?
CONTEXT, PEOPLE!
Every negative1 post is confusing and assumes you know things even they don’t know.
The source is a demo reel for a restoration company from maybe 5 years ago that I believe the discovery of inspired the creation of this thread 3 years ago. If there was a Technicolor print scanned by LFL, we don’t know what happened to it, but most of the 4k scans, including, I imagine, negative1’s are based on it.
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The grain removal tests are decent. There are also black and white test shots too.
Some seem a little too scrubbed though. Also, note the color correction is not
that consistent.The stories of a personal Technicolor reference for Star Wars, is actually the
same one from a private individual who lent it to Lucasfilm, since they didn’t
have one available at the time. This print is the one that has been scanned
and is the basis for current fan restorations in 4k.R1
This is a confusing post, especially for those who haven’t been following this thread (such as myself).
You have posted some stills. Where did you get them? What are we seeing in them? Are they downrezzed from a higher quality source? If so, what is this source, have you seen said source in full, and do you still have access to it?
Do we know what kind of source the clips in the Vimeo link are from? Same source as rogue1’s stills?
Are these clips/stills WIP or finished?
Are you saying that a Technicolor dye-transfer print was scanned for restoration? If so, by whom? If it was by an official entity, they would be acting stupid, as IB prints are ill suited to proper restorations due to high contrast, and should only be used for rough colour checks (sayeth Robert A. Harris).
What 4K fan restorations are there? Are you talking about Mike Verta’s hyped-up-but-not-for-public-consumption restoration?
CONTEXT, PEOPLE!
Every negative1 post is confusing and assumes you know things even they don’t know.
This is why the Team Account was a strategy of his to add some weight to his arguments. By making it seem like there was some sort of consensus to some of the crazy claims he would make, it gave the appearance of adding some weight.
Shouldn’t we be grateful for their (his?) restoration efforts, though…? (Am I missing something?)
The Original Trilogy’s Timeline Reconstruction: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Implied-starting-date-of-the-Empire-from-OT-dialogue/post/786201/#TopicPost786201
And just like n1, he appears to conveniently not notice his detractors and completely ignore it in (my opinion) an attempt to appear like a professional pr person for some secretive organization that knows things nobody else does.
Shouldn’t we be grateful for their (his?) restoration efforts, though…? (Am I missing something?)
Plenty of people admire the work itself, which is another matter. Even when it comes to that, though, there are other members on the team that made far better decisions in my opinion. I have tons of respect for members (or former members or whatever) of the team.
The team account was specifically told he needs to limit his comments to threads related to the restoration work itself instead of making up mysterious inside info in other places. They repeatedly broke the rule and team accounts (as a whole) got banned. His original account, negative1, is still active and unbanned. Instead of using it he is making sock accounts, which is against the rules.
When someone signs their posts, that’s usually a good sign they have antisocial tendencies.
-some jackass
And just like n1
He is n1.
Shouldn’t we be grateful for their (his?) restoration efforts, though…? (Am I missing something?)
Plenty of people admire the work itself, which is another matter. Even when it comes to that, though, there are other members on the team that made far better decisions in my opinion. I have tons of respect for members (or former members or whatever) of the team.
Exactly right.
The team account was specifically told he needs to limit his comments to threads related to the restoration work itself instead of making up mysterious inside info in other places. They repeatedly broke the rule and team accounts (as a whole) got banned. His original account, negative1, is still active and unbanned. Instead of using it he is making sock accounts, which is against the rules.
I have no doubt that once Jay gets around to it, one of the two accounts will be banned. The fact that he’s still pretending he’s not N1 should be grounds to ban both accounts but I’m guessing that won’t happen.
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WYSHS
Anyway if he had to make a sock for legitimate reasons he should have told the mods and had the old one banned, so they should both be banned anyway in my opinion.
