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Unlike the systems used in the 80’s, (which did cause me mild headaches) the new tech doesn’t faze me at all. I have to wonder if some theaters calibrate their equipment often enough not to cause such problems today.

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George Miller wanted to shoot Fury Road in native stereo until he realized how incredibly complicated and detrimental to the 2D picture quality it was going to be. I remember noticing a bunch of names listed under “3D camera development” in the end credits as I was walking out of the theater.

Alfonso Cuaron made a similar decision with Gravity. He originally planned on using stereo cameras, but then realized there were limitations a 2D camera didn’t have in capturing his vision for the movie. The vast majority of what you’re seeing in Gravity was rendered natively in 3D anyway.

Which brings me to my next point.

Even on movies like Man of Steel or Pacific Rim, where the director had no interest in 3D, the significant amount of cgi in the movie can still be rendered in native 3D and be used as an effective, eye-catching selling point for paying extra to see it that way.

Now, the other end of the equation is that all of these movies falling above a certain budget basically need to be in 3D purely for economic reasons. Even movies like Oblivion that weren’t in 3D at all need to sell the “formatted for digital Imax” angle in order to help guarantee a good ROI.

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Gah, looking back I feel like a total dolt. Every time I mention UHD I mean HDR. HDR seems more like a gimmic because most of the time (at least from the demos I’ve seen in stores) it just looks like someone boosted the everloving shit out of the contrast and it’s always looked a little eugh. UHD, from my understanding, means practically nothing more than just 4k.
How on earth do I keep getting these confused

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HDR10 has wider colour space and depth which are definitely not gimmicks imo. I think those store demos just crank up the brightness and saturation because they think that’s what looks good to the layman.

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Han Solo IRL said:

HDR10 has wider colour space and depth which are definitely not gimmicks imo. I think those store demos just crank up the brightness and saturation because they think that’s what looks good to the layman.

Me i’m waiting for dolby vision to catch on and oleds to drop in price. Though what i really would want is a laser projector too bad that both it and oled cost a lot of money. 😦

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Back to Star Wars. If Disney tried to wait till 2020, wouldn’t Fox just release it themselves and beat Disney to it?

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I don’t think they could release anything without Lucasfilm’s permission. That would probably extend even to ANH post-2020.

My thinking is that Disney might come to their senses and realize that profits shared with Fox from an OOT blu-ray is still way more money than the profits they’d share from yet another reissue of the 2011 discs.

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Fang Zei said:

I don’t think they could release anything without Lucasfilm’s permission. That would probably extend even to ANH post-2020.

My thinking is that Disney might come to their senses and realize that profits shared with Fox from an OOT blu-ray is still way more money than the profits they’d share from yet another reissue of the 2011 discs.

Working for a household name global company myself, I just can’t see them thinking that long term i.e. waiting until 2020 (when none of them will likely still be in the current roles).

Rightly or wrongly, they’ll be thinking of profits in the next year or two, surely?

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SwissArmyTin said:

HDR seems more like a gimmic because most of the time (at least from the demos I’ve seen in stores) it just looks like someone boosted the everloving shit out of the contrast and it’s always looked a little eugh.

HDR is actually pretty cool. It enables TVs to display a wider brightness range than was previously possible. Unlike just boosting contrast (which would simply make dark and light areas more extreme, with the results of whites being clipped and blacks being crushed), HDR actually displays more of everything. Here’s an example from a video game:

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“It’s a lot of fun… it’s a lot of fun to watch Star Wars.” – Bill Moyers

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The only problem with that comparison is that whoever took the photo didn’t properly set the camera to actually capture the difference. Now there actually is clipping going on in the hdr photo in the brightest area of the window that you can actually see more detail in with the sdr photo. I’m sure if you were in the room seeing it with your own eyes the difference in quality would become much more apparent than this photo comparison can convey.

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Yeah, there is no way to actually show the difference between SDR and HDR on a normal screen.
Besides, most consumer-grade cameras can’t even capture the dynamic range of a SDR TV.

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12 Bit color with HDR makes a huge difference. I’ve seen it in person. Not a gimmick.

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Alderaan said:

That HDR photo looks artificial af.

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Yeah, there is no way to actually show the difference between SDR and HDR on a normal screen.
Besides, most consumer-grade cameras can’t even capture the dynamic range of a SDR TV.

I mean, this should be obvious, shouldn’t it?

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I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.

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Should we start a new thread for our potential response if we get stiffed, or keep such discussion in here? I have a rough draft of an open letter, (to be posted on twitter) but I’ve not been able to concentrate on it lately.

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If it were me, I would wait until we know whether we need it or not. I’m not exactly hopeful at this point but it can’t hurt to wait and see. That said, if you want feedback on a draft then you could argue that it fits in either this or the Celebration thread.

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If it’s needed, it has to be a timely response while the iron is hot, so to speak.

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SilverWook said:

Should we start a new thread for our potential response if we get stiffed, or keep such discussion in here? I have a rough draft of an open letter, (to be posted on twitter) but I’ve not been able to concentrate on it lately.

Start a new thread. Make sure the title is provocative, or at least gives clear intent.

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Alderaan said:

SilverWook said:

Should we start a new thread for our potential response if we get stiffed, or keep such discussion in here? I have a rough draft of an open letter, (to be posted on twitter) but I’ve not been able to concentrate on it lately.

Start a new thread. Make sure the title is provocative, or at least gives clear intent.

We can call it something like, “The ‘Announce the OOT Blu-Ray on Thursday or we’ll post a scathing letter on Twitter while the iron is still hot’ thread.”

TV’s Frink said:

I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.

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I trust Wook’s editorial decision making. There’s no need to go overboard.

However, if he goes soft, I will give him an earful. 😦