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Post #106101

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The Bizzle
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Yeah, its us OLD people George- thanks!
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Date created
17-May-2005, 9:04 AM
MeBe: On ignore, being as all your debates boil down to you ham-handedly trying to turn everyone's words around in a tedious and boring line-by-line debate style that's older than your grandparents bacon strips. At least the Capt knows how to formulate a response worth a crap without having to rely on 30 different quotes to frame your mindless variations on "I know you are but what am I." Having someone like you insult my intelligence is like being kicked in the shins by a mosquito.

Capt: At least you attempted to explain your outlandish statement, and that's cool, but it still doesn't really hold up--because it wasn't the MONEY that made Michael loopy. He was already loopy. If Michael Jackson had never been famous he'd STILL be a white girl who touches boys, only he'd be buried on page 6 of the Gary Indiana Times instead of on trial.

The reason your comparison breaks down is that the "falling over the edge" you're using as experiences are things that are ACTUALLY CRAZY. Howard Hughes was mentally ill. Michael Jackson is very troubled. They've done things that are pretty abhorrent. George Lucas has tinkered with his movies and gave a theory as to why and how there appears to be two different fanbases for this saga. The comparison fails there. He's done nothing out of the ordinary anywhere NEAR the levels of Jackson or Hughes. Him making movies you don't like is not a indication of his mental health, and it's pretty specious to even go there with that, much less take it to the level where he's brain-addled and seriously damaged in ways that Hughes and Jackson were BEFORE they got famous. THAT is why the comparison looks like slobbering overreaction. I mean--I don't understand why I'm being told to get some perspective and stop reacting poorly when all I'm doing is trying to shine a light on how absurd these comparisons are and how faulty they are at the root.

I can understand a certain level of frustration after not getting what you want. that's perfectly understandable. But to not only make comparisons like this, but to get angry at people who poke holes in them? C'mon. You're setting up the fact that he's done nothing but make kids movies and then set up some sort of CLASS STRUGGLE scenario to support it. And I don't even really see how that applies to the subject of this THREAD even. Lucas offers up a pretty decent analogy as to WHY there appears to be two fanbases for his movies. Somehow, between there and here, we've gone from that to comparisons to crazy people and the suggestion that because Lucas is rich, he's lost touch with 'The common man.' Suddenly we've gone from two fanbases to the communist manifesto.

And I understand that you'd get pissed that I shine a light on how ludicrous that is, how fanatically navel-gazing and mental masturbation the trip from the beginning of this thread to your last post has been, but that doesn't mean I'm invalidating your existence or trying to invalidate your opinions because you're dickheads or whatever.