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Post #1060480

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Lord Haseo
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * SPOILER THREAD *
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29-Mar-2017, 5:22 PM

SilverWook said:

It’s a cliffhanger ending. And ESB was by no means wrapped up at the end. In fact, one criticism people had back in 1980, (who were no doubt unfamiliar with the old movie serial structure Lucas was emulating) was that it was only “half” a movie.

Really shows the internet hasn’t changed people too too much.

yotsuya said:

SilverWook said:

It’s a cliffhanger ending. And ESB was by no means wrapped up at the end. In fact, one criticism people had back in 1980, (who were no doubt unfamiliar with the old movie serial structure Lucas was emulating) was that it was only “half” a movie.

It was the escape from Hoth and the training of Luke. Han was captured while Leia, Chewy, Threepio, and the Falcon escaped. Han’s capture and Luke’s defeat and everyone’s escape is an ending. Not a happy ending, but an ending. Lando and Chewy left to find Han. And everyone who saw it should have known that there would be another one. I did and I was 10.

But it’s never confirmed whether Luke and Vader were related (which is why it was confirmed in ROTJ) and we still don’t actually get Han back just like we don’t actually get Luke back at the end of TFA now that I think of it.

TFA has several huge plot holes and is lacking in exposition (which there usually is too much of) and it has an ending that it goes beyond.

I agree with the second statement.

Every other installment has an ending that we pick up years later (TESB to ROTJ is the shortest at Lucas’s timeline of 1 year). TLJ will pick up moments after TFA. New is good, but some aspects of the formula should be kept. Abrams failed to do that and failed to craft an logical story that fit with the others. All of Lucas’s failings in the PT, Abrams addressed and did better. But he failed at all the things that Lucas was good at, such as writing the overall story and having a satisfying ending. I still like the Ending to TESB to this day. It was satisfying even with the threads left hanging. I do not find TFA’s ending satisfying.

We’ll just have to agree to disagree as it’s a breath of fresh air being teased like that. I have spent many hours contemplating how Luke and Rey’s first encounter would play out and without that bold step on JJ’s part I wouldn’t have known I like to be denied something I yearn for for the sake of building anticipation. But I feel you though