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Apparently Alex Jones apologized to avoid a lawsuit, although he denies it.

https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2017/0326/Infowars-apologizes-for-spreading-Pizzagate-theory.-What-does-that-mean-for-fake-news

While Jones notes that he is not the creator of the theory, it was discussed and reported at length on his site and radio show. Mr. Welch later said he followed Infowars on social media and listened to Jones’s show.

Last month, Alefantis wrote to Jones, demanding an apology and retraction of the posts. While he threatened no legal action against Infowars, he described the content as “defaming,” and under Texas law, Jones, who is based in Austin, had one month from receiving the letter to retract the stories or apologize to avoid liability for punitive damages in a libel suit, The Washington Post reported.

“We are not admitting that Mr. Alefantis, or his restaurant, have any legal claim.” Jones said. “We do not believe they do. But we are issuing this statement because we think it is the right thing to do. It will be no surprise to you that we will fight for children across America.”

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Things that make you go hmmmmm…

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/27/politics/devin-nunes-white-house-donald-trump/

It has been something of a mystery, the whereabouts of House Intelligence Committee Chairman Rep. Devin Nunes on the day before his announcement that he saw information suggesting that communications of then-President-elect Donald Trump and his advisers may have been swept up in surveillance of other foreign nationals.

One source told CNN that Nunes, a California Republican, was seen on the White House grounds the day before his announcement. In a phone interview, Nunes confirmed to CNN that he was on the White House grounds that day – but he said he was not in the White House itself. (Other buildings, including the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, are on the same grounds.)

Nunes said he didn’t believe the President nor any of his West Wing team were aware he was there.

The California Republican said he was there for additional meetings “to confirm what I already knew” but said he wouldn’t comment further so as to not “compromise sources and methods.”

He told CNN he wanted to “reiterate this has nothing to do with Russia.” In a statement, a spokesman for Nunes said he is “extremely concerned by the possible improper unmasking of names of US citizens.”

Nunes went to the building because he needed a secure area to view the information, he told CNN. A government official said Nunes was seen Tuesday night at the National Security Council offices of the Eisenhower building which, other than the White House Situation Room, is the main area on the complex to view classified information in a secure room.

I’ve seen reporting that says he didn’t need to be on the WH grounds to find a secure area, so…

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Here’s a good tracker of the thingss Trump and his Republican friends have undone or are trying to undo regarding Obama regulations.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-rolling-back-obama-rules/?utm_term=.6911e680e17b

Stuff like this.

Would overturn a Labor Department rule requiring firms seeking federal contractors of $500,000 or more to disclose and correct any serious labor law violations committed in the last three years.

Because why would we want to know that?

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TV’s Frink said:

I am sure this is a mistake Trump would never make. He would never be golfing when he should be working, right?

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Also an interesting read.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-29/unmasking-the-men-behind-zero-hedge-wall-street-s-renegade-blog

Lokey, who said he wrote much of the site’s political content, claimed there was pressure to frame issues in a way he felt was disingenuous. “I tried to inject as much truth as I could into my posts, but there’s no room for it. “Russia=good. Obama=idiot. Bashar al-Assad=benevolent leader. John Kerry= dunce. Vladimir Putin=greatest leader in the history of statecraft,” Lokey wrote, describing his take on the website’s politics. Ivandjiiski countered that Lokey could write “anything and everything he wanted directly without anyone writing over it.”

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Just because the election’s over doesn’t mean we get a break from the propaganda. I take small comfort in that at least some propagandists decide the paycheck isn’t worth it anymore.

“I can’t be a 24-hour cheerleader for Hezbollah, Moscow, Tehran, Beijing, and Trump anymore. It’s wrong. Period. I know it gets you views now, but it will kill your brand over the long run,” Lokey texted Ivandjiiski. “This isn’t a revolution. It’s a joke.”

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Zerohedge is an interesting study, because there are legitimately good articles on there you won’t find anywhere else related to finance and politics. On the other hand, there is also a lot of crazy nonsense and propaganda.

I’ve learned in my life to not trust any one source for information. But there is value in having many eyes and ears.

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On a practical front, you can use http://www.scamadviser.com to look up info on any site, to see if the site’s real location or the identity of its owner is being hidden–both of these are pretty serious red flags. If a site is hiding its real location and its owner’s identity, it’s pretty safe to assume it’s a scam/propaganda outlet until proven otherwise.

Keep in mind, passing this test doesn’t mean it’s legit either. But if it fails, just walk away.

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Fox News is a “legitimate” media outlet that is still mostly propaganda and nonsense. So are CNN and MSNBC. Like I said, it’s best to hear information from as many sources as possible, and then get a feel for how to filter out the noise.

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Alderaan said:

Fox News is a “legitimate” media outlet that is still mostly propaganda and nonsense. So are CNN and MSNBC. Like I said, it’s best to hear information from as many sources as possible, and then get a feel for how to filter out the noise.

Added text to my original post: Keep in mind, passing this test doesn’t mean it’s legit either. I mean, the National Enquirer passes this test, fergoodnesssakes. But if a site actually manages to fail, just walk away. Counterpropa, for example.

That said, news outlets shouldn’t be expected to be neutral. They can have and share opinions, and readers/viewers should be aware of those opinions. It’s when those opinions get in the way of reporting facts that it begins to be a problem. i.e. I don’t like how the New York Times has a pretty strong rightward lean these days, but they’re allowed to hold those positions. That’s much less of an issue than the overall decline in the quality of journalism. And you’re giving Fox News way too much credit–one of their local affiliates went to court (and won) over the right to deliberately misinform their viewers… but they are still a Fox affiliate, so I guess that’s not a dealbreaker.

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It’s also important to keep in mind the difference between reporting and opinions. Fo attacked CNN as biased and inaccurate the other day, and if you’re watching a panel with people giving their opinion, yeah you’re gonna see both. But when you’re talking about a news story where CNN is simply reporting what a source told them, that’s a different animal.

It’s also a mistake to dismiss everything Fox News out of hand. For example, Fox News’ polling division is highly respected.

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It’s also important to keep in mind the difference between reporting and opinions. Fo attacked CNN as biased and inaccurate the other day, and if you’re watching a panel with people giving their opinion, yeah you’re gonna see both. But when you’re talking about a news story where CNN is simply reporting what a source told them, that’s a different animal.

It’s also a mistake to dismiss everything Fox News out of hand. For example, Fox News’ polling division is highly respected.

I saw this post coming from a mile away and that is why I didn’t respond earlier … let it go man … it was a white-washed article not the Bible, LOL.

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I do understand that if we want fair journalism we have to look for it in every site. I mean, I think it really sucks that journalists just can’t do a better job, to keep their integrity should be important.

It’s a hard thing for me to accept considering all I want is the truth, not some right or left or backwards slanted and factless article. It’s so damn hard to find. Some of these news agencies used to be at the top of their game at one time. Now that everything is a ratings play most of the ones I used to respect I now wouldn’t ever use their printings for toilet paper or animal cage lining. I’m trying to be more open to things but it can end up being such a waste of time to sift through all the bullshit.

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I get all my news from the side of the page on Facebook. Just kidding I don’t read the news because I’m trying to become less depressed and gloomy.

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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-idUSKBN16Y1H6

A Russian bank under U.S. economic sanctions over Russia’s incursion into Ukraine disclosed on Monday that its executives had met Jared Kushner, President Donald Trump’s son-in-law and a top White House adviser, during the 2016 election campaign.

Kushner, 36, married to Trump’s daughter Ivanka Trump, has agreed to testify to a Senate committee investigating whether Russia tried to interfere in the election.

Allegations by U.S. intelligence agencies that Russian actors were behind hacking of senior Democratic Party operatives and spreading disinformation linger over Trump’s young presidency. Democrats charge the Russians wanted to tilt the election toward the Republican, a claim dismissed by Trump. Russia denies the allegations.

But there has been no doubt that the Russian ambassador to the United States, Sergei Kislyak, developed contacts among the Trump team. Trump’s first national security adviser, Michael Flynn, was forced to resign on Feb. 13 after revelations that he had discussed U.S. sanctions on Russia with Kislyak and misled Vice President Mike Pence about the conversations.

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The collapse of the media was a global phenomenon, but it was a little more spectacular in the US. Consider the BBC–yeah, it has a bit of a stodgy conservative editorial bias, but it generally avoids the strident ideological stuff that’s common in the US. Plus you get to read about Big Cat sightings on occasion, so you get that 😉 Der Spiegel (yes, there’s an English version), kinda the same strain as the BBC really, so pretty nice. The Independent (UK) is pretty lacking the editorial restraint department, but it’s a good left-of-center counterbalance to the Beeb. Honestly wish there was a large left-leaning news source with good-quality editorial control, but haven’t found one. In the US, the Washington Post seems to be trying to stake out their position as the only large centrist media outlet, with pretty decent editorial control too, but we’ll see how long that lasts.

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TV’s Frink said:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-idUSKBN16Y1H6

A Russian bank under U.S. economic sanctions over Russia’s incursion into Ukraine disclosed on Monday that its executives had met Jared Kushner, President Donald Trump’s son-in-law and a top White House adviser, during the 2016 election campaign.

Kushner, 36, married to Trump’s daughter Ivanka Trump, has agreed to testify to a Senate committee investigating whether Russia tried to interfere in the election.

Allegations by U.S. intelligence agencies that Russian actors were behind hacking of senior Democratic Party operatives and spreading disinformation linger over Trump’s young presidency. Democrats charge the Russians wanted to tilt the election toward the Republican, a claim dismissed by Trump. Russia denies the allegations.

But there has been no doubt that the Russian ambassador to the United States, Sergei Kislyak, developed contacts among the Trump team. Trump’s first national security adviser, Michael Flynn, was forced to resign on Feb. 13 after revelations that he had discussed U.S. sanctions on Russia with Kislyak and misled Vice President Mike Pence about the conversations.

This article seems to be a mish-mash of supposition and some facts, and it’s Reuters. I’ve been watching the C-span coverage of the hearings and the daily Press briefings mostly. Counterpropa.com is also a very fair on-line publication.

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Jetrell Fo said:

TV’s Frink said:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-idUSKBN16Y1H6

A Russian bank under U.S. economic sanctions over Russia’s incursion into Ukraine disclosed on Monday that its executives had met Jared Kushner, President Donald Trump’s son-in-law and a top White House adviser, during the 2016 election campaign.

Kushner, 36, married to Trump’s daughter Ivanka Trump, has agreed to testify to a Senate committee investigating whether Russia tried to interfere in the election.

Allegations by U.S. intelligence agencies that Russian actors were behind hacking of senior Democratic Party operatives and spreading disinformation linger over Trump’s young presidency. Democrats charge the Russians wanted to tilt the election toward the Republican, a claim dismissed by Trump. Russia denies the allegations.

But there has been no doubt that the Russian ambassador to the United States, Sergei Kislyak, developed contacts among the Trump team. Trump’s first national security adviser, Michael Flynn, was forced to resign on Feb. 13 after revelations that he had discussed U.S. sanctions on Russia with Kislyak and misled Vice President Mike Pence about the conversations.

This article seems to be a mish-mash of supposition and some facts, and it’s Reuters. I’ve been watching the C-span coverage of the hearings and the daily Press briefings mostly. Couterpropa.com is also a very fair on-line publication.

I have to wonder why they went through all the trouble of hiding both their real location and owner. That’s not the sort of thing you do on accident when your web admin sets up your DNS name wrong. It takes a real professional effort to conceal it.

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CatBus said:

Jetrell Fo said:

TV’s Frink said:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-idUSKBN16Y1H6

A Russian bank under U.S. economic sanctions over Russia’s incursion into Ukraine disclosed on Monday that its executives had met Jared Kushner, President Donald Trump’s son-in-law and a top White House adviser, during the 2016 election campaign.

Kushner, 36, married to Trump’s daughter Ivanka Trump, has agreed to testify to a Senate committee investigating whether Russia tried to interfere in the election.

Allegations by U.S. intelligence agencies that Russian actors were behind hacking of senior Democratic Party operatives and spreading disinformation linger over Trump’s young presidency. Democrats charge the Russians wanted to tilt the election toward the Republican, a claim dismissed by Trump. Russia denies the allegations.

But there has been no doubt that the Russian ambassador to the United States, Sergei Kislyak, developed contacts among the Trump team. Trump’s first national security adviser, Michael Flynn, was forced to resign on Feb. 13 after revelations that he had discussed U.S. sanctions on Russia with Kislyak and misled Vice President Mike Pence about the conversations.

This article seems to be a mish-mash of supposition and some facts, and it’s Reuters. I’ve been watching the C-span coverage of the hearings and the daily Press briefings mostly. Couterpropa.com is also a very fair on-line publication.

I have to wonder why they went through all the trouble of hiding both their real location and owner. That’s not the sort of thing you do on accident when your web admin sets up your DNS name wrong. It takes a real professional effort to conceal it.

H.A. Goodman is the guy who I believe runs and owns the site. He may do it out of his home and doesn’t want to get hacked by those that don’t like him. He writes articles for a lot of other publications too.

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Jetrell Fo said:

CatBus said:

Jetrell Fo said:

TV’s Frink said:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-idUSKBN16Y1H6

A Russian bank under U.S. economic sanctions over Russia’s incursion into Ukraine disclosed on Monday that its executives had met Jared Kushner, President Donald Trump’s son-in-law and a top White House adviser, during the 2016 election campaign.

Kushner, 36, married to Trump’s daughter Ivanka Trump, has agreed to testify to a Senate committee investigating whether Russia tried to interfere in the election.

Allegations by U.S. intelligence agencies that Russian actors were behind hacking of senior Democratic Party operatives and spreading disinformation linger over Trump’s young presidency. Democrats charge the Russians wanted to tilt the election toward the Republican, a claim dismissed by Trump. Russia denies the allegations.

But there has been no doubt that the Russian ambassador to the United States, Sergei Kislyak, developed contacts among the Trump team. Trump’s first national security adviser, Michael Flynn, was forced to resign on Feb. 13 after revelations that he had discussed U.S. sanctions on Russia with Kislyak and misled Vice President Mike Pence about the conversations.

This article seems to be a mish-mash of supposition and some facts, and it’s Reuters. I’ve been watching the C-span coverage of the hearings and the daily Press briefings mostly. Couterpropa.com is also a very fair on-line publication.

I have to wonder why they went through all the trouble of hiding both their real location and owner. That’s not the sort of thing you do on accident when your web admin sets up your DNS name wrong. It takes a real professional effort to conceal it.

H.A. Goodman is the guy who I believe runs and owns the site. He may do it out of his home and doesn’t want to get hacked by those that don’t like him. He writes articles for a lot of other publications too.

Ahh, that guy. The far-right Ayn Rand Republican who suddenly fell in love with Bernie just in time to launch a neverending “attack from the left” on Clinton. As a longtime Bernie supporter, I have already formed an opinion of him.

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