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Originally posted by: Kingsama
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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
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Originally posted by: Kingsama
there would not have been an england save for FDR and Hitlers over zealousness.

May I take this opportunity to worship at the feet of all Americans for saving my puny Island from certain destruction. We held out from 1939 until 1944 without them, but that one year that they helped us was, of course, the decider. Thank You Thank you Thank you.
p.s Thank You.

Calm yourself and read both reasons i listed, there are two after all... There would be No US, if the french wouldnt have lended aid during the revolutionary war. Thanks for assuming so, but i am not some crazy american jocker. But i cant see the english and french ralying to defeat Hilter with out the US and Hitlers overzealousness towards Russia. IF Hilter would have laid off and not tried to ramrod into Russia during the winter things would have gone much much worse for all the good guys involved.

As for JFK and Reagan others have more than adiquitely covered the issues i would have raised...

London, Newcastle, Leeds, Soutahmpton and any other English city you care to mention was bombed to shit during the war and we fought them off in airplanes, so if you're suggesting that Hitler was looking elsewhere and that's why he was eventually defeated by the UK/US alliance I'd have to disagree.

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Originally posted by: ricarleite
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Originally posted by: JediSage
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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
I would sugest that the U.S government only intervene in foreign affairs if it is of some interest to them, be it security, financial, etc. It may not be an obvious interest, but they will have some interest, even if it's citizen's are unaware.

I agree, however it just never seems to work out that way. We could never make the case to invade anywhere there's a drop of oil, because everyone would scream about it. It is unfortunate, because I do believe the US can be a force for good, especially it's military. However, we're often in lose-lose situations because of the games our politicians play, and in the court of public opinion.

There's corporate interest as well, and that goes beyond the whole politics. The thing is, I belive it is wrong to intervere merely for financial interests. And if we consider how much money the belic industry makes for each war or military intervention, we must ask ourselves if these multi-billion dollar companies influence the political decision behind the killings and bombings... I must say, one should be very naivee if he thinks those companies don't influence the war industry at all.

I'm not just talking about corporate or finacial reasons (oil, etc), I'm also talking about things like aiding a coup to get rid of a leader that is standing in your way somehow.