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Originally posted by: Kingsama
wow way to dodge the question. i was looking for if other crimes rose, you no from people not being able to stop them. You are a lot less likely to get robbed if you have a gun under the counter, or car jacked if you can defend yourself. Of course simply stating % a is smaller then %b is over simplifying.
Did I dodge the question? Sorry. What I tried to say is that no, the number of occurences of other crimes did not rose. Gun related incidents did drop. And by the way, we have a STRONG pro-gun comunity here, that thinks the same way you do.
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Originally posted by: Kingsama
So let me ask you a question, you and i are both asleep in our respected homes, a crook breaks into both our homes, I grab the 410 shot gun from under my bed, load it and prepare to defend my family, you do what??? call the cops and wait the 10 minutes for them to arrive.
Can i ask you a quesiton, what type of neighborhood did you grow up in???
First the last question: Quite a violent one. I live in the second most violent city in Brazil, maybe the... 8th or 9th most violent city in the world. I was not raised in the most violent areas, but I was also not in a good area either. I've been mugged with a gun pointed to my head once.
The second question: Yes, I'd perhaps call the cops. As would do 99% of the population here, who dosen't own a gun. I see your point, the "cut the middleman" thing and "protect" your own people. But what I intend to do is to make sure those criminals never get to my house. We should focus on making sure people don't get into crime at all. We should focus on preventing violence to happen in first place, instead of just grabbing a bigger gun and shooting whoever trespasses my properties.
Now let me ask you, do you live in a violent neighborhhod? Ever needed to fire your gun? (I'm not sure you have one)
Now, before we continue this conversation, PLEASE, please, let's not turn this polite discussion into a fight. I'm offering my point of view, and I'm accepting yours. I can see your point, I really do, and I know you at least understand mine - you don't necessarily agree, but you understand what I'm talking about. Is any of us right about such topic? Hell no, these are opinions, no one is fully correct. What I intend to do when I express my opinion is never to force someone to accept it, I don't want that, we are free to make our own choices. What I want is to make sure another point of view is known. If we politely discuss a topic and all the points of views and issues are discussed, then with that full knoledge of the topic we can make a clear decision... LOL I'm not sure I made myself clear
* raises hands, offering to shake it *
I have nothing against anyone in this forum and I never will - I felt our conversation got a little bit too harsh and I don't want this to get ugly. OK?
