imperialscum said:
Both are suppose to be stories about finding something/someone. KOTOR reflects that in its plot perfectly, while TFA plot is full of random shit unrelated to the main point of the story.They’re still different stories…just because Shutter Island and The Empire Strikes both have plot twists doesn’t mean that the story elements are interchangeable. This fact doesn’t make any of those films poorly written.
Plot twist is not a plot objective. Plot twist is just a plot element. Plot objective is essentially the most important thing as it defines the plot. If plot objective is finding something/someone, it basically defines that the plot will be a detective/mystery.
Shutter Island and The Empire Strikes Back have completely different plot objectives and therefore plots. Based on that, one is a mystery while the other is an adventure. They are essentially completely different plots, regardless of how many plot elements (twists, etc.) they might have in common. Both are well-written because their plots reflect their plot objectives.
When it comes to TFA, the plot objective is finding someone (detective/mystery). Yet the plot does not reflect that because one third of it goes on about family issues (soap opera), one the third of it goes on about destroying a super weapon (kind of an adventure), and the rest goes on about other random shit unrelated to the plot objective (daily life of Rey, etc.). This a prime example of horribly written/constructed plot.