Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo — Page 157

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

Anyone who spends a lot of time traveling around the world comes to realize that while there are many aspects of other cultures that are bad, there are also a number of areas where other cultures are better than ours. In my travels I’ve been struck by some areas where our U.S. culture is really bad compared to others. To wit:

• In most cultures, families care for their elderly relatives. We largely abandon our elderly.
• In most cultures, being uneducated in math or science is considered embarrassing. Here it is often a badge of honor.
• Most cultures know a LOT about what is going on in other countries. Here, we mostly have very little idea what is going on outside of the U.S.
• Most cultures have far less obesity than we do.
• Most cultures revere educators. Here, educators are routinely derided.
• Most cultures eat more vegetables and less sugar than we do.
• Most cultures drive far less than we do.
• In most cultures, everyone knows their neighbors.
• Most cultures revolve around small, local businesses. Here, Wal-Mart rules.
• Most cultures value money less than ours.
• Most cultures value art MUCH more highly than ours.
• Most cultures have less violent crime, and far fewer shootings than ours.

My point is, we may be “great”, but we’re not even close to perfect. We can learn a LOT from other cultures, and would benefit from adopting many aspects of other cultures. Which leads me to my final example - most cultures (with a couple of notable exceptions) aren’t as gol-darn stubbornly insistent that they are better than everyone else!!!

+1

Warbler said:

darthrush said:

Possessed said:

Honestly I think sometimes you are so eager to be offended you just jump at the chance to be up in arms about something without taking the time to consider the actual meaning of what is said.

+1. Moviefreakmind has made some good points which is that it should be okay to criticize certain parts of a culture. The treatment of women in Islam is an example of this. Cultures are fantastic and interesting to learn about and being willing to learn new things from these cultures is what I find is most important.

Yes, but sometimes I think he blamed problems on culture where is should be blamed on the Government.

Maybe not in the specific case of you adopted Chinese niece who I’m sure is an absolutely delightful child (though there are problematic aspects of Chinese culture that have already been adequately pointed out in this thread, which have no relation to the loveliness of your niece.) But at least in the case of Islam the government is simply enforcing the culture (religious ideals) as law.

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

My point is, we may be “great”, but we’re not even close to perfect. We can learn a LOT from other cultures, and would benefit from adopting many aspects of other cultures. Which leads me to my final example - most cultures (with a couple of notable exceptions) aren’t as gol-darn stubbornly insistent that they are better than everyone else!!!

I don’t think that anyone is saying that. I’m not, at least. I readily admit that there are cultures better than mine in many ways. For instance, I think Japanese culture is better than American culture in some ways. Ironically, Japan is one of those cultures that believes they’re better than others.

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

Anyone who spends a lot of time traveling around the world comes to realize that while there are many aspects of other cultures that are bad, there are also a number of areas where other cultures are better than ours. In my travels I’ve been struck by some areas where our U.S. culture is really bad compared to others. To wit:

• In most cultures, families care for their elderly relatives. We largely abandon our elderly.
• In most cultures, being uneducated in math or science is considered embarrassing. Here it is often a badge of honor.
• Most cultures know a LOT about what is going on in other countries. Here, we mostly have very little idea what is going on outside of the U.S.
• Most cultures have far less obesity than we do.
• Most cultures revere educators. Here, educators are routinely derided.
• Most cultures eat more vegetables and less sugar than we do.
• Most cultures drive far less than we do.
• In most cultures, everyone knows their neighbors.
• Most cultures revolve around small, local businesses. Here, Wal-Mart rules.
• Most cultures value money less than ours.
• Most cultures value art MUCH more highly than ours.
• Most cultures have less violent crime, and far fewer shootings than ours.

My point is, we may be “great”, but we’re not even close to perfect. We can learn a LOT from other cultures, and would benefit from adopting many aspects of other cultures. Which leads me to my final example - most cultures (with a couple of notable exceptions) aren’t as gol-darn stubbornly insistent that they are better than everyone else!!!

Great post, Puggo. People like to focus on the aspects of other cultures that they feel are inferior to theirs, and sure there are always going to be some things like that. But then, like you said, even cultures we might think are backwards, will be superior to ours in some ways.

moviefreakedmind said:

I was never saying that American culture is better in all aspects. The familial bonds of foreign cultures is one of the positives of other cultures that I was thinking of. My main points was that I can’t think of any other culture that I’d rather live in. So far no one has even told me that they disagree with that.

The problem with this is, that you don’t just live in a culture, you live in a country and under a government. So again is the culture the problem(and maybe some cases it is and maybe some cases it is not) or the country/government?

How can you not hate a culture that doesn’t easy access to cheese? Those bastards.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/state-senator-compared-planned-parenthood-to-a-nazi-concentration-camp_us_58c83610e4b09cd957673c97?

This month, someone made a donation to Planned Parenthood in Republican State Senator Steve Fitzgerald’s name ― and the Kansas lawmaker was not happy about it.

On March 10, Planned Parenthood’s Great Plains clinic tweeted out a photo of a letter Sen. Fitzgerald wrote to the women’s health organization. “It is with great dismay that I received your letter that a donation was made in my ‘honor’ to your heinous organization,” Sen. Fitzgerald wrote.

The state senator went on to liken Planned Parenthood ― an international nonprofit organization that provides healthcare to millions of women and men ― to a Nazi concentration camp.

“This is as bad ― or worse ― as having one’s name associated with Dachau,” Sen. Fitzgerald wrote, referring to the first Nazi concentration camp created in 1933. “Shame on your organization and shame on anyone that would attempt to blacken my name in this manner.”

When asked if Sen. Fitzgerald was implying that Planned Parenthood is actually worse than the Nazis, the state senator replied: “Oh, yeah,” adding that the Nazis “ought to be incensed by the comparison.”

FFS.

TV’s Frink said:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/state-senator-compared-planned-parenthood-to-a-nazi-concentration-camp_us_58c83610e4b09cd957673c97?

This month, someone made a donation to Planned Parenthood in Republican State Senator Steve Fitzgerald’s name ― and the Kansas lawmaker was not happy about it.

On March 10, Planned Parenthood’s Great Plains clinic tweeted out a photo of a letter Sen. Fitzgerald wrote to the women’s health organization. “It is with great dismay that I received your letter that a donation was made in my ‘honor’ to your heinous organization,” Sen. Fitzgerald wrote.

The state senator went on to liken Planned Parenthood ― an international nonprofit organization that provides healthcare to millions of women and men ― to a Nazi concentration camp.

“This is as bad ― or worse ― as having one’s name associated with Dachau,” Sen. Fitzgerald wrote, referring to the first Nazi concentration camp created in 1933. “Shame on your organization and shame on anyone that would attempt to blacken my name in this manner.”

When asked if Sen. Fitzgerald was implying that Planned Parenthood is actually worse than the Nazis, the state senator replied: “Oh, yeah,” adding that the Nazis “ought to be incensed by the comparison.”

FFS.

Let me get this straight, he said that Planned Parenthood was actually worse than the Nazis?

I would think this might offend Jewish people, especially those that lost loved ones during the Holocaust and those still alive that survived it.

MSNBC says they have Trump’s tax returns and will air them tonight. Seems like he could sue them for everything they are worth and might even lead to a criminal prosecution. Can’t imagine that’s lawful to obtain and release a private person’s tax returns against their wishes.

Holy shit.

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/state-senator-compared-planned-parenthood-to-a-nazi-concentration-camp_us_58c83610e4b09cd957673c97?

This month, someone made a donation to Planned Parenthood in Republican State Senator Steve Fitzgerald’s name ― and the Kansas lawmaker was not happy about it.

On March 10, Planned Parenthood’s Great Plains clinic tweeted out a photo of a letter Sen. Fitzgerald wrote to the women’s health organization. “It is with great dismay that I received your letter that a donation was made in my ‘honor’ to your heinous organization,” Sen. Fitzgerald wrote.

The state senator went on to liken Planned Parenthood ― an international nonprofit organization that provides healthcare to millions of women and men ― to a Nazi concentration camp.

“This is as bad ― or worse ― as having one’s name associated with Dachau,” Sen. Fitzgerald wrote, referring to the first Nazi concentration camp created in 1933. “Shame on your organization and shame on anyone that would attempt to blacken my name in this manner.”

When asked if Sen. Fitzgerald was implying that Planned Parenthood is actually worse than the Nazis, the state senator replied: “Oh, yeah,” adding that the Nazis “ought to be incensed by the comparison.”

FFS.

Let me get this straight, he said that Planned Parenthood was actually worse than the Nazis?

I would think this might offend Jewish people, especially those that lost loved ones during the Holocaust and those still alive that survived it.

I would hope any rational person would be offended, but I know better than that.

https://twitter.com/maddow/status/841807273513107456

It’s his 1040 from 2005.

SilverWook said:

Trumpy isn’t a private citizen anymore.

I thought he was entitled to privacy for his records from previous years, and only his years in office would have to be disclosed to the public.

But apparently, that’s false…although not in the way you would expect.

Individual income tax returns–including those of public figures–are private information, according to the IRS.

TV’s Frink said:

https://twitter.com/maddow/status/841807273513107456

It’s his 1040 from 2005.

Isn’t that the same one that was leaked during the campaign?

Maddow is such a hack.

TV’s Frink said:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/state-senator-compared-planned-parenthood-to-a-nazi-concentration-camp_us_58c83610e4b09cd957673c97?

This month, someone made a donation to Planned Parenthood in Republican State Senator Steve Fitzgerald’s name ― and the Kansas lawmaker was not happy about it.

On March 10, Planned Parenthood’s Great Plains clinic tweeted out a photo of a letter Sen. Fitzgerald wrote to the women’s health organization. “It is with great dismay that I received your letter that a donation was made in my ‘honor’ to your heinous organization,” Sen. Fitzgerald wrote.

The state senator went on to liken Planned Parenthood ― an international nonprofit organization that provides healthcare to millions of women and men ― to a Nazi concentration camp.

“This is as bad ― or worse ― as having one’s name associated with Dachau,” Sen. Fitzgerald wrote, referring to the first Nazi concentration camp created in 1933. “Shame on your organization and shame on anyone that would attempt to blacken my name in this manner.”

When asked if Sen. Fitzgerald was implying that Planned Parenthood is actually worse than the Nazis, the state senator replied: “Oh, yeah,” adding that the Nazis “ought to be incensed by the comparison.”

FFS.

Wow, that is dangerously stupid.

That loser Fitzgerald has a history of making provocative statements. He had some controversy before for saying that Christians aren’t allowed to be Democrats. The guy is a nutter.