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For once I would like to see some 70s CGI shoehorned into a 90s film.
Frink (The Ridiculous Menace): make it so!
“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”
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Best I can do on short notice is 80’s CGI shoehorned into a 2005 film.
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I kind of admire the early CGI from the 70s & 80s, given the limits of computer technology at the time.
Anything after the mid-90s, not so much.
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Do the people over at Disney really think that a 4K release of the special editions would be a “surprise”. Oh wow popular movies being released on a new format I didn’t see that coming. I really hope it’s something more than that.
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Best I can do on short notice is 80’s CGI shoehorned into a 2005 film.
Not bad, got a laugh out of me.
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I will not give up on the Original Trilogy. We’ve made too many compromises already; too many retreats. Lucas let Greedo shot first and we fall back. He inserts Hayden Christensen in Return of the Jedi and we fall back. Not again. The line must be drawn at the 40th anniversary of STAR WARS! This far, no further! And I will not buy another Special Edition release!
Quoting Star Trek in defense of Star Wars. Truly, what a time to be alive.
Hey, it’s better than shoehorning the Praxis Wave from Star Trek VI into SW retroactively.
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As long as the picture quality looks better and the color timing is more accurate, that’d be something to me
It would be a very small crumb of comfort indeed…but yeah, even if the 4k release merely turns out to be the 2011 Special Edition, if new viewers have to settle for GL’s current ‘definitive’ version to watch, then I’d rather it’s colour-timing was improved for them overall.
I know I’m a picky bugger when it comes to my Star Wars tastes, but right from the opening scenes of the ‘A New Hope’ Special Edition (both 2011 and 2004 versions), I immediately knew something seemed very wrong to me…and it was to do with the LACK of ‘laserbolt’ colour during the very first shot as the Tantive IV exchanges fire with the Stardestroyer - it’s currently a poor, wishy washy effort compared to the VIBRANT red and green opening exchange I’d always been used to in previous releases.
It might be a trivial thing to some, but it’s a detail that has always marred that vital opening shot for me where the so-called ‘Special Edition’ is concerned. Here’s a comparison to see what I mean -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkT8Hgo9oVs
…Not that I will ever be watching the official ‘Special Edition’ again, no matter HOW MUCH the picture is upgraded…as adywan (like Harmy) has thankfully brought the opening exchange back to a superior vibrancy for me, where the red lasers are actually RED, and the green lasers are actually GREEN! 😃 -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbn-Ox1XawI
Well I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that any new release of the special edition is unwelcome at this point, so long as the OOT is not available commercially and in high quality.
Well I can’t speak for others, but any continued re-release of the ‘Special Editions’ which helps to perpetuate them as being the ‘de facto’ versions over the originals, certainly grinds MY gears!
I have always believed the Special Editions should have been a bonus feature, nice to watch a few times here and there, but the original films should be the ones that have gotten the HD treatment they deserve.
^ THIS, dammit!!
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I wouldn’t be thrilled with only a new SE release, but I would probably shell out some cash if it was a new and better transfer than the current Blu-ray, regardless of the status of the OOT. I do very much prefer the unaltered versions, but I’m not as much of a hardliner about it as most of the others here. I sometimes throw on the SE after watching prequel edits, and if we got a really good new master I could see myself watching it more frequently (albeit always timing bathroom breaks and snack runs to coincide with the more egregious changes). And as many others have stated, any release that provides a superior source for Despecialized 3.0 isn’t all bad. I haven’t lost all faith as far as the OOT is concerned yet, though, so I’m just going to wait and see.
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The fam wanted to watch ROTJ tonight and I misplaced my despecialized copy…yeah I loathe the SE changes of ROTJ the most…I had myself leave the room because knowing my level of irritation would probably piss off some of the family members I am forced to deal with (PT is superior, TFA is bad). Oh boy…
So yeah…they need to release OUT officially on blu-ray and/or 4k…save me…
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The fam wanted to watch ROTJ tonight and I misplaced my despecialized copy…yeah I loathe the SE changes of ROTJ the most…I had myself leave the room because knowing my level of irritation would probably piss off some of the family members I am forced to deal with (PT is superior, TFA is bad). Oh boy…
So yeah…they need to release OUT officially on blu-ray and/or 4k…save me…
Ugh.
PT is superior? Are they mentally challenged?
It seems like people are really embracing the new characters. In fact, the big question people ask me now about Star Wars is, “Are Finn and Poe gay lovers?” And really how the f*ck would I know? My second husband left me for a man, so my gaydar isn’t exactly what you’d call Death Star level quality. ----Carrie Fisher
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I’m not sure why people are saying that there is going to be a big surprise at the 40th anniversary panel and jumping to this meaning they will announce the OUT being released. The report seems to have been twisted a little to suit this theory, when in fact the announcement actually is a little different:
“As is tradition, this marquee Celebration event will undoubtedly include many not-to-be-missed surprises.”
All this means is that there could be some surprises, usually surprise guests, unseen footage or something else along those lines. Same type of thing happens every celebration.
The sad fact is, if they don’t announce that they are releasing the theatricals at Celebration, then thats the end of it. It’s the optimal time to release them, being the 40th anniversary. In 2020, when Disney will get the full rights to the other 5 films, the next release will be the 3D prequel trilogy with a 4k SE trilgoy later once Disney start supporting the format. In this case the chance of seeing the OUT will most likely be AFTER George has passed. I wouldn’t put it past him to have stipulated never to release the originals. The only glimmers of hope is 1:-the strained relations between George and Disney since TFA went into production and he announced before they had a chance about the big 3 being in it and then them chucking out Georges treatments ( followed by the “white slavers” and other negative comments George made about disney and TFA) and 2:- better quality fan restorations and their greater media attention cutting into Disney’s chances of maximum profits for an official release
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I’m not sure why people are saying that there is going to be a big surprise at the 40th anniversary panel and jumping to this meaning they will announce the OUT being released. The report seems to have been twisted a little to suit this theory, when in fact the announcement actually is a little different:
“As is tradition, this marquee Celebration event will undoubtedly include many not-to-be-missed surprises.”
All this means is that there could be some surprises, usually surprise guests, unseen footage or something else along those lines. Same type of thing happens every celebration.
The sad fact is, if they don’t announce that they are releasing the theatricals at Celebration, then thats the end of it. It’s the optimal time to release them, being the 40th anniversary. In 2020, when Disney will get the full rights to the other 5 films, the next release will be the 3D prequel trilogy with a 4k SE trilgoy later once Disney start supporting the format. In this case the chance of seeing the OUT will most likely be AFTER George has passed. I wouldn’t put it past him to have stipulated never to release the originals. The only glimmers of hope is 1:-the strained relations between George and Disney since TFA went into production and he announced before they had a chance about the big 3 being in it and then them chucking out Georges treatments ( followed by the “white slavers” and other negative comments George made about disney and TFA) and 2:- better quality fan restorations and their greater media attention cutting into Disney’s chances of maximum profits for an official release
Here’s another glimmer of hope. John Landis said the release would happen.
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Also, if Lucas had that much control over the distribution, then he would’ve had the preserved clippings of the original version of Star Wars destroyed, assuming what we’ve been told is true.
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If he couldn’t get those clippings destroyed under his ownership AND was OK with re releasing the OUT bad quality or not, I doubt these is such “you can’t release the OUT” clause
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If the SE gets a UHD Blu release, the colors will have to be given another look anyway to take advantage of HDR. So that’s a sure thing.
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The fam wanted to watch ROTJ tonight and I misplaced my despecialized copy…yeah I loathe the SE changes of ROTJ the most…I had myself leave the room because knowing my level of irritation would probably piss off some of the family members I am forced to deal with (PT is superior, TFA is bad). Oh boy…
So yeah…they need to release OUT officially on blu-ray and/or 4k…save me…
… and since I apparently need to own the blu-rays in order to ethically download and enjoy Harmy’s version and that’s never going to happen …
Even then, going through all the trouble of downloading Harmy’s version and burning it to a disc requires a level of technical know-how not everyone possesses. It’s no wonder people sell it on ebay.
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The fam wanted to watch ROTJ tonight and I misplaced my despecialized copy…yeah I loathe the SE changes of ROTJ the most…I had myself leave the room because knowing my level of irritation would probably piss off some of the family members I am forced to deal with (PT is superior, TFA is bad). Oh boy…
So yeah…they need to release OUT officially on blu-ray and/or 4k…save me…
… and since I apparently need to own the blu-rays in order to ethically download and enjoy Harmy’s version and that’s never going to happen …
Even then, going through all the trouble of downloading Harmy’s version and burning it to a disc requires a level of technical know-how not everyone possesses. It’s no wonder people sell it on ebay.
I’ve been watching the auction for the Harmy blu-rays and it sold 34 copies this week. The same seller also has the first generation Holliday Special up for grabs for $20- its almost like 1995 again.
It seems like people are really embracing the new characters. In fact, the big question people ask me now about Star Wars is, “Are Finn and Poe gay lovers?” And really how the f*ck would I know? My second husband left me for a man, so my gaydar isn’t exactly what you’d call Death Star level quality. ----Carrie Fisher
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The fam wanted to watch ROTJ tonight and I misplaced my despecialized copy…yeah I loathe the SE changes of ROTJ the most…I had myself leave the room because knowing my level of irritation would probably piss off some of the family members I am forced to deal with (PT is superior, TFA is bad). Oh boy…
So yeah…they need to release OUT officially on blu-ray and/or 4k…save me…
… and since I apparently need to own the blu-rays in order to ethically download and enjoy Harmy’s version and that’s never going to happen …
Even then, going through all the trouble of downloading Harmy’s version and burning it to a disc requires a level of technical know-how not everyone possesses. It’s no wonder people sell it on ebay.
I’ve been watching the auction for the Harmy blu-rays and it sold 34 copies this week. The same seller also has the first generation Holliday Special up for grabs for $20- its almost like 1995 again.
I’ve already reported the listing and you guys should too
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Ebay has been lax on this sort of thing. Another seller has been reported multiple times for selling Team Blu preservations there, and he’s still in business.
Where were you in '77?
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Ebay has been lax on this sort of thing. Another seller has been reported multiple times for selling Team Blu preservations there, and he’s still in business.
That’s insane. It’s blatant piracy
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Ebay is a lot like Mos Eisley these days.
Where were you in '77?
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For Disney, the idea of ‘everything matters’ outweighs restoring the OT to it’s original release cut. Disney wants everything to ‘fit’ both stylistically and in effects. I would wager they would be more interested in updating the SE SFX to fit in with Rogue One than from removing the SE changes. In fact, I bet they have a higher priority on making changes to the PT than working on a OUT. The SE is the canon they operate around now.
The only thing that makes the OUT seem likely is the preservation Disney is doing on the original footage. Archiving the OT gives them the opportunity, but I doubt they will spend any extra money or effort on putting the original cut back together.
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For Disney, the idea of ‘everything matters’ outweighs restoring the OT to it’s original release cut. Disney wants everything to ‘fit’ both stylistically and in effects. I would wager they would be more interested in updating the SE SFX to fit in with Rogue One than from removing the SE changes. In fact, I bet they have a higher priority on making changes to the PT than working on a OUT. The SE is the canon they operate around now.
What’s your basis for this line of thinking?
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All this talk makes me wonder why J.J. funded a remastering of PHANTASM but not STAR WARS '77. Then again, I suppose they were already in the process of the 4k scans by the time he was in talks to direct TFA.
“That said, there is nothing wrong with mocking prequel lovers and belittling their bad taste.” - Alderaan, 2017
MGGA (Make GOUT Great Again):
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Return-of-the-GOUT-Preservation-and-Restoration/id/55707
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For Disney, the idea of ‘everything matters’ outweighs restoring the OT to it’s original release cut. Disney wants everything to ‘fit’ both stylistically and in effects. I would wager they would be more interested in updating the SE SFX to fit in with Rogue One than from removing the SE changes. In fact, I bet they have a higher priority on making changes to the PT than working on a OUT. The SE is the canon they operate around now.
The only thing that makes the OUT seem likely is the preservation Disney is doing on the original footage. Archiving the OT gives them the opportunity, but I doubt they will spend any extra money or effort on putting the original cut back together.
Maybe they would spend the money to redo the SE’s cgi, but it would be expensive and the '97 shots look “good enough” so I don’t think they’d bother.
They’re not going to redo the cgi every twenty years so it matches the quality of the newest Star Wars movies. If anything there seems to be a conscious effort in TFA and RO to replicate via cgi the look of the model work from the OT.