What is this crap about digital being bad? Digital medium is by far superior in terms of storage and preservation. Unlike analogue recording (film), which starts to degrade/change from the point it is being recorded, the digital recording is basically time-invariant. For example, the colour encoding of digital video is strictly defined, while in analogue film it varies based on the current conditions.
Of course, you might still want to use analogue film camera for some reason to shoot the film, but in any case you should digitalise the film as soon as it shot (in highest possible resolution).
Who here has lobbied for not preserving film elements digitally? As far as I can tell this conversation is all about capture mediums.
Still, I do not see why wouldn’t you immediately record it digitally. If you use analogue film to record a scene, by the time you transfer it to digital medium it will not be the same as it was originally recorded. Not to mention conditions of transformation process which requires projector (use different lighting during the projection and you have different results, etc.)
If you originally record it digitally, you have it completely preserved. You carve that digital recording into stone inside a cave and aliens will still be able to read it tens of thousands of years after we will destroy each other in the exact form as it was originally recorded.
Digital storage is intensely unreliable and is extremely prone to failure-so much so that many things from even the early 2000’s and beyond are now unsalvageable. Nearly every digital restoration is even printed back to film for storage.
Film v Digital are two different processes. Film is natural photography which involves changes in capturing the image, processing, lab work, printings and dupes and so on. Digital is fully controllable and does not involve any in-between steps.
Digital allows for greater flexibility and accuracy in restoration compared to analogue work, but of course like anything in life is not perfect.
The key to all this is that Disney has to have something ready for 4K and beyond. As-is they have nothing that is up to date. They have a history of completing restorations or title updates and simply returning them to the shelf with little or no fanfare. (20,000 Leagues) The real question is: what do people refer to when they say “negative conformed to SE”. No one in their right mind would recut the o-negs that way, unless you were a studio back in the old days butchering films for quick theatrical releases or later reissues. And there still should be IPs on hold. Something will have to be scanned from a high generation-and essentially no SE material outside the 97 source is high enough-and even that is outdated and in need of a complete overhaul ala what was done to Lawrence of Arabia in modern times versus its original 1989 analog based restoration.
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I suspect and have heard from knowledgable people (although it’s mostly their speculation too) that the negative was disassembled as part of the restoration process and reassembled in SE form, but that it was duplicated first, and there are IP and separation masters too. From my understanding the Star Wars negative has always been in bad shape as a bit of a victim of its time. The film was more susceptible to deterioration and it was handled poorly in the 70s.
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Episode I is not digital.
He had just done AOTC and was working on ROTS when the 2004 masters were done. He was already in all-digital mode, and I am certain he wanted the OT DVDS to aesthetically match up with what he was making at the time.
Episode I is not digital.
He had just done AOTC and was working on ROTS when the 2004 masters were done. He was already in all-digital mode, and I am certain he wanted the OT DVDS to aesthetically match up with what he was making at the time.
And he failed miserably each and every time. The only prequel that actually looks somewhat like an original Star Wars film is The Phantom Menace
Saw this posted today.
So the question is…where was she and what did she watch?
Saw this posted today.
So the question is…where was she and what did she watch?
Most likely a private screening in her own theater. Which version? Probably the Special Edition. Unless she’s a film collector and has an original print
nickyd47 said:
Most likely a private screening in her own theater. Which version? Probably the Special Edition. Unless she’s a film collector and has an original print
Maybe…but I doubt it. A hunch tells me Cher wouldn’t post about this if she had control over it.
nickyd47 said:
Most likely a private screening in her own theater. Which version? Probably the Special Edition. Unless she’s a film collector and has an original printMaybe…but I doubt it. A hunch tells me Cher wouldn’t post about this if she had control over it.
So you think she saw this at some theater somewhere? And you think it’s the OOT?
nickyd47 said:
Most likely a private screening in her own theater. Which version? Probably the Special Edition. Unless she’s a film collector and has an original printMaybe…but I doubt it. A hunch tells me Cher wouldn’t post about this if she had control over it.
So you think she saw this at some theater somewhere? And you think it’s the OOT?
It’s one possibility.
As I said elsewhere…either:
She or someone she knows has a 35mm print.
She was watching a public showing of a new print which may or may not be the OUT.
Look at the things she usually posts about - they’re all very, very political. If she decided to throw on a blu-ray in her own home theater, I don’t think it would warrant a tweet. That makes me think it was “an event.”
nickyd47 said:
Most likely a private screening in her own theater. Which version? Probably the Special Edition. Unless she’s a film collector and has an original printMaybe…but I doubt it. A hunch tells me Cher wouldn’t post about this if she had control over it.
So you think she saw this at some theater somewhere? And you think it’s the OOT?
It’s one possibility.
As I said elsewhere…either:
She or someone she knows has a 35mm print.
She was watching a public showing of a new print which may or may not be the OUT.
Look at the things she usually posts about - they’re all very, very political. If she decided to throw on a blu-ray in her own home theater, I don’t think it would warrant a tweet. That makes me think it was “an event.”
This is probably the biggest stretch I’ve seen for possible OOT relation
Maybe if there was a way to ask her what she actually watched? 😉
Where were you in '77?
nickyd47 said:
Most likely a private screening in her own theater. Which version? Probably the Special Edition. Unless she’s a film collector and has an original printMaybe…but I doubt it. A hunch tells me Cher wouldn’t post about this if she had control over it.
So you think she saw this at some theater somewhere? And you think it’s the OOT?
It’s one possibility.
As I said elsewhere…either:
She or someone she knows has a 35mm print.
She was watching a public showing of a new print which may or may not be the OUT.
Look at the things she usually posts about - they’re all very, very political. If she decided to throw on a blu-ray in her own home theater, I don’t think it would warrant a tweet. That makes me think it was “an event.”
This is probably the biggest stretch I’ve seen for possible OOT relation
I’ll believe Landis but not the Cher tweet theory
Maybe if there was a way to ask her what she actually watched? 😉
I don’t have Twitter. Feel free 😃
Maybe if there was a way to ask her what she actually watched? 😉
Send her a message through the forum account. I’m sure that won’t raise any flags.
I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.
She never says anything either way, the special effects ARE old, be it 1977 or 1997. She says it reminds her of the first time, but doesn’t say it is exactly like it. I’m not even sure if she knows or cares about the numerous alterations. Of all people to break OOT news, I wouldn’t expect Cher to be the one to do it.
How come I have to do all the heavy lifting around here? 😉
Where were you in '77?
She never says anything either way, the special effects ARE old, be it 1977 or 1997. She says it reminds her of the first time, but doesn’t say it is exactly like it. I’m not even sure if she knows or cares about the numerous alterations. Of all people to break OOT news, I wouldn’t expect Cher to be the one to do it.
^^^^^^^
How come I have to do all the heavy lifting around here? 😉
Because SilverWook stronk
Maybe so, but tweetdeck is a pain in the butt to use. Anyway, question asked. If we get a reply I’ll be pretty shocked.
Pablo never answered my query about how he arrived at 20 year’s worth of OT reissue rumors.
Where were you in '77?
How come I have to do all the heavy lifting around here? 😉
With great power comes great responsibility.
I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.
nickyd47 said:
Most likely a private screening in her own theater. Which version? Probably the Special Edition. Unless she’s a film collector and has an original printMaybe…but I doubt it. A hunch tells me Cher wouldn’t post about this if she had control over it.
So you think she saw this at some theater somewhere? And you think it’s the OOT?
It’s one possibility.
As I said elsewhere…either:
She or someone she knows has a 35mm print.
She was watching a public showing of a new print which may or may not be the OUT.
Look at the things she usually posts about - they’re all very, very political. If she decided to throw on a blu-ray in her own home theater, I don’t think it would warrant a tweet. That makes me think it was “an event.”
Lol the fact that she said the special effects are old practically points to the special edition as those have aged worse than the originals
Cher is also kinda crazy. I love her to death, but her tweets often make little to no sense.
It seems like people are really embracing the new characters. In fact, the big question people ask me now about Star Wars is, “Are Finn and Poe gay lovers?” And really how the f*ck would I know? My second husband left me for a man, so my gaydar isn’t exactly what you’d call Death Star level quality. ----Carrie Fisher
10 years after Star Wars, the film Witches of Eastwick was released. What do those two have in common? Musical scores by John Williams. Believe it or not, Cher was the star of that film, which, of course, makes her the most obvious candidate to do a review of the original Star Wars in its unaltered form before its 4K UHD HDR 3D Blu-ray Digital VR release.
Now, I know what you’re thinking. But wouldn’t Cher be under an NDA? Well no, because REMEMBER she won an Oscar in 88 for Moonstruck, and, after last Sunday’s Best Picture kerfuffle with Moonlight, the accounting firm of Price Waterhouse Coopers, being in some deep shit, nullified all legal contracts. WHICH MEANS Cher’s NDA is up, but, she still needs to save face with Lucasfilm OBVIOUSLY because of her upcoming Sy Snootles anthology film (keep up, won’t you?).
So then how do we know all of this? HELLO of course she still wants fans to know what’s up, so she’s been sending coded signals for months via her Twitter account.
Just look at this tweet from February 2 (https://twitter.com/cher/status/827226043467456513):
FYI ARENA IS AMAZING.SO 🌬❄️
Rehearsed on Stage,Sang,Danced. I’m still Somewhat of a clod. New opening costume…You’ll need smelling salts 🤣
Okay let’s break this down. So we all know that “Arena” is referring to Season 1 Episode 18 of the original Star Trek. That’s not a coincidence. Notice how the word “original” is very similar to the word “original” in “original trilogy,” or how the word “Star” is very similar to the word “star” in “Star Wars.” Fascinating, right? She then says “Rehearsed on Stage,Sang,Danced.” I don’t know what that means. But THEN she says “I’m still Somewhat of a clod.” the word “still” meaning the same - as in same as in the 70s - and notice the capitalized “S” as in the capitalized “S” in “SE” which stands for “Special Edition”! The rest of the tweet of course refers to the new packaging and smellovision feature.
Now, stick with me here, because this one’s a doozy. On March 4, she tweeted this (https://twitter.com/cher/status/838273936848670720):
WATCHING 1ST STAR WARS IN THEATRE.SPECIAL EFFECTS OLD,BUT ❤️IT.REMINDS ME OF 1st TIME. HANS,CHEWY,LUKE,OLD BEN,
👑LEIA,DARTH VADER,HYPERSPACE
Don’t let the caps lock distract you, she specifically mentions the words “watching” and “old.” Put these two words together - “watching old.” Watching old what Cher? Could it be an old movie? Could it maybe even be gasp Star Wars?
I guess we’ll all find out when she shows up at Celebration.
DominicCobb said:
I guess we’ll all find out when she shows up at Celebration.
The evidence is obivious…
CLUE 1 is very subtle
CLUE 2 is clearly an Anakin & Padme reference
CLUE 3 ANH 4K RESTORATION CONFIRMED by Cher
Rogue One is redundant. Just play the first mission of DARK FORCES.
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‘The best visual effects in the world will not compensate for a story told badly.’ - V.E.S.
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10 years after Star Wars, the film Witches of Eastwick was released. What do those two have in common? Musical scores by John Williams. Believe it or not, Cher was the star of that film, which, of course, makes her the most obvious candidate to do a review of the original Star Wars in its unaltered form before its 4K UHD HDR 3D Blu-ray Digital VR release.
Now, I know what you’re thinking. But wouldn’t Cher be under an NDA? Well no, because REMEMBER she won an Oscar in 88 for Moonstruck, and, after last Sunday’s Best Picture kerfuffle with Moonlight, the accounting firm of Price Waterhouse Coopers, being in some deep shit, nullified all legal contracts. WHICH MEANS Cher’s NDA is up, but, she still needs to save face with Lucasfilm OBVIOUSLY because of her upcoming Sy Snootles anthology film (keep up, won’t you?).
So then how do we know all of this? HELLO of course she still wants fans to know what’s up, so she’s been sending coded signals for months via her Twitter account.
Just look at this tweet from February 2 (https://twitter.com/cher/status/827226043467456513):
FYI ARENA IS AMAZING.SO 🌬❄️
Rehearsed on Stage,Sang,Danced. I’m still Somewhat of a clod. New opening costume…You’ll need smelling salts 🤣Okay let’s break this down. So we all know that “Arena” is referring to Season 1 Episode 18 of the original Star Trek. That’s not a coincidence. Notice how the word “original” is very similar to the word “original” in “original trilogy,” or how the word “Star” is very similar to the word “star” in “Star Wars.” Fascinating, right? She then says “Rehearsed on Stage,Sang,Danced.” I don’t know what that means. But THEN she says “I’m still Somewhat of a clod.” the word “still” meaning the same - as in same as in the 70s - and notice the capitalized “S” as in the capitalized “S” in “SE” which stands for “Special Edition”! The rest of the tweet of course refers to the new packaging and smellovision feature.
Now, stick with me here, because this one’s a doozy. On March 4, she tweeted this (https://twitter.com/cher/status/838273936848670720):
WATCHING 1ST STAR WARS IN THEATRE.SPECIAL EFFECTS OLD,BUT ❤️IT.REMINDS ME OF 1st TIME. HANS,CHEWY,LUKE,OLD BEN,
👑LEIA,DARTH VADER,HYPERSPACEDon’t let the caps lock distract you, she specifically mentions the words “watching” and “old.” Put these two words together - “watching old.” Watching old what Cher? Could it be an old movie? Could it maybe even be gasp Star Wars?
I guess we’ll all find out when she shows up at Celebration.
Was that supposed to be funny?