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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
John Paul II? Most influential? more than Lenin? More than Churchill? More than Hitler? And 2 U.S presidents on the list? Jedisage, I know you and I often don't see eye to eye on political and global matters, but come on. I'm not saying I have any better suggestions, this is a very tough choice, but your list I don't think cuts it.
I know the guy just died, but how was the pope so influential? Sure, he touched a lot of people, but he didn't have any major effect on the history of the planet, unlike Hitler. It was a bad effect, but an effect all the same, and a big one. In the same way I think you could say Bin Laden makes the list - he has influenced and reshaped our world for years to come, although that happened in 2001 so I guess he missed his chance by a year or so.
I personally think John Lennon was pretty influential. He changed popular music and art and opened up politics etc to lots of people who would otherwise not have been interested. And what about Gandhi?
I didn't put them in any particular order (should have specified that). However, JPII was quite active in the downfall of communism and was a huge activist for the poor.
As for the two US presidents, yes I put them on there. Why would I not put them on there? I put FDR on it because he was a closet Socialist and is largely responsible for many of the problems the US is having today. And Reagan, refer to my comment on JPII. The majority of people in the US will say he's one of the three greatest presidents the US has ever had, along with FDR (God help me) and Lincoln (another Republican, I might add).
Lennon??? LOL. Please. Another closet socialist (though he was more open about it than FDR was) who hated America yet made his millions here. If we're talking entertainers (groups or individuals) I'd put Elvis or the Beatles as a whole before I'd put Lenin...oops, I mean Lennon there by himself.
The reason I didn't put Bin-Laden on there is because, yes he was responsibile for World Trade Center '93 (which Clinton did nothing about, BTW), but his impact will be greater on the 21st Century.
My choices for 6-10 in no particular order:
6. Martin Luther King
7. Hitler
8. Jonas Saulk
9. Oppenheimer
10. Stalin