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I don’t know if you’ve seen Moonlight, but I’ll just say, as someone who has seen all 90 Best Picture winners, it is nothing like the rest of them.
interesting considering that there are vast differences between the rest.
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That was a very clear, articulate, and well-thought-out response. I have not seen all of the Best Picture winners, only about half, and haven’t had a chance to even see Moonlight, so I’ll take your word for it. It’s not an issue I take much time to think about, honestly, so the added clarification was helpful. My thought-process allowed an accurate prediction, though of course everything is always more complicated than that.
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I don’t know if you’ve seen Moonlight, but I’ll just say, as someone who has seen all 90 Best Picture winners, it is nothing like the rest of them.
interesting considering that there are vast differences between the rest.
As I said, I’ve seen them all, so I’m aware there are differences. The point is the degree of difference.
If La La Land had won, it’d be the eleventh musical to win, and the fourth film about the entertainment industry to win this decade.
We would be here all day if I listed all the ways Moonlight is unlike other Best Picture winners, but suffice to say it doesn’t really fit into any of the usual boxes.
That was a very clear, articulate, and well-thought-out response. I have not seen all of the Best Picture winners, only about half, and haven’t had a chance to even see Moonlight, so I’ll take your word for it. It’s not an issue I take much time to think about, honestly, so the added clarification was helpful. My thought-process allowed an accurate prediction, though of course everything is always more complicated than that.
Thanks. The Oscars are a topic I care about far more than I should (not all of those Best Picture winners were worth my time). It was a smart prediction. Sometimes knowing so much about Oscar history can get in the way of recognizing when something’s happening that’s actually different. I’ve noticed a LOT of La La Land backlash recently, so I can’t say I 100% went into the night thinking it was a sure thing, but I figured the voters must have really loved it to tie it for the record number of nominations. I knew too that Moonlight was the most likely upsetter, but again, my knowledge of past winners got in the way and I thought they’d play it safe, as usual.
Moonlight, by the way, is a fantastic film. I can’t say for sure that everyone would love it, but I think if people saw it they’d know what I mean about it being a very atypical winner. It’s not even just the subject matter either, it’s the style. Certainly a unique film. In the end, I think it’s kind of cool that it won, and I think history will look back well on the choice, even though personally my favorite film of the year was, in fact, La La Land (and my favorites never win! haha I should have remembered that).
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Warren Beatty, you are a jackass! I am willing to bet you were either drunk or high or combination thereof.
edit: Daye Dunaway is also an idiot since she is the one that actually said La La Land had won.
You do realize they were given the wrong card, right?
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Is the forum slow as molasses for anyone else besides me today?
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Yes, I too notice the forum acting quite slow.
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I don’t know if you’ve seen Moonlight, but I’ll just say, as someone who has seen all 90 Best Picture winners, it is nothing like the rest of them.
interesting considering that there are vast differences between the rest.
As I said, I’ve seen them all, so I’m aware there are differences. The point is the degree of difference.
If La La Land had won, it’d be the eleventh musical to win,
True, but Musicals are not as common as they used to be.
and the fourth film about the entertainment industry to win this decade.
I didn’t know that.
We would be here all day if I listed all the ways Moonlight is unlike other Best Picture winners, but suffice to say it doesn’t really fit into any of the usual boxes.
Was it a drama? Most Best Picture winners are dramas.
The Greatest Show on Earth
Rocky
The Godfather
Gigi
A Man for All Seasons
Patton
All Quiet on the Western Front
The Broadway Melody
Gone With The Wind
This are all vastly different movies and all Best Picture winners.
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The OJ doc winning was really dumb - even though I really liked it.
And Zootopia winning seems really dumb - even though I haven’t seen it.
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Warren Beatty, you are a jackass! I am willing to bet you were either drunk or high or combination thereof.
edit: Daye Dunaway is also an idiot since she is the one that actually said La La Land had won.
You do realize they were given the wrong card, right?
Well I don’t know what the hell happened, cause on camera they pulled the card right out of Beatty’s hands and it said “Moonlight” on it. I know he claimed the card he had said “La La Land”, but on camera they pulled the card right out of his hand and showed it to the camera and it said “Moonlight”. Either way, Beatty still looked off to me, either somewhat drunk or somewhat high.
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The OJ doc winning was really dumb - even though I really liked it.
Why was it dumb? It was a good documentary.
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Is the forum slow as molasses for anyone else besides me today?
It’s working fine for me, so I’d say the problem is with you, possibly on a personal level as an individual.
LOL
(satire)
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Is the forum slow as molasses for anyone else besides me today?
It has been slow for me for the past few days. At one point a couple of days ago, it seemed to be down for about 10-15 minutes.
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Is the forum slow as molasses for anyone else besides me today?
It’s working fine for me, so I’d say the problem is with you, possibly on a personal level as an individual.
LOL
(satire)
The capital LOL really completes it 😛
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The OJ doc winning was really dumb - even though I really liked it.
Why was it dumb? It was a good documentary.
Because it was a tv documentary.
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Warren Beatty, you are a jackass! I am willing to bet you were either drunk or high or combination thereof.
edit: Daye Dunaway is also an idiot since she is the one that actually said La La Land had won.
You do realize they were given the wrong card, right?
Well I don’t know what the hell happened, cause on camera they pulled the card right out of Beatty’s hands and it said “Moonlight” on it. I know he claimed the card he had said “La La Land”, but on camera they pulled the card right out of his hand and showed it to the camera and it said “Moonlight”. Either way, Beatty still looked off to me, either somewhat drunk or somewhat high.
Or old?
I didn’t actually watch the end so I didn’t see it, but you are the first person I’ve heard say the card had Moonlight on it. Did anyone else see this? Every story I’ve read said he was given the wrong envelope.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/business/media/pwc-oscars-best-picture.html
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We would be here all day if I listed all the ways Moonlight is unlike other Best Picture winners, but suffice to say it doesn’t really fit into any of the usual boxes.
Was it a drama? Most Best Picture winners are dramas.
It was a drama unlike many I’ve seen. It’s not just a unique winner, it’s a unique film, period.
The Greatest Show on Earth
As boring and bland a winner as any other. I can’t think of any other with this exact subject matter, but I can think of many that are the same type of movie.
Rocky
Feel good underdog tale. Classic. Chariots of Fire comes to mind, as does the recent King’s Speech. Million Dollar Baby is another boxing winner.
The Godfather
Certainly a bit of a trailblazer at the time, but it was the biggest film of the year and an instant classic. Sort of fits with other family epics and definitely The Godfather Part II and The Departed.
Gigi
I get this movie mixed up with My Fair Lady all the time.
A Man for All Seasons
Period costume drama based on a popular play. One of many.
Patton
All Quiet on the Western Front
Two war films. Obviously not exactly the same, but the type.
The Broadway Melody
Don’t even remind me of this boring POS. Another show business musical.
Gone With The Wind
A big epic. Classic Oscar fare.
This are all vastly different movies and all Best Picture winners.
I think vastly is a bit of an overstatement. Best Picture winners usually fit into boxes: big budget epics, war dramas, feel good stuff, period dramas, etc.
Moonlight is an intimate drama about an individual growing up. Honestly the closest that I can think of is Boyhood, but that didn’t even win (and is still VERY different). And there’s the matter of identity. As I said before, 12 Years a Slave is about race, but not really about an individual’s racial identity (and there’s no film that’s won about any LGBT identity).
It’s just not stylistically what they go for. It’s also not super well known. Yeah, Oscars don’t always go for the biggest box office successes, but still, this is the lowest grossing winner in decades.
They just don’t go for these small indie films. I don’t know how clearer I can be about that.
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Warren Beatty, you are a jackass! I am willing to bet you were either drunk or high or combination thereof.
edit: Daye Dunaway is also an idiot since she is the one that actually said La La Land had won.
You do realize they were given the wrong card, right?
Well I don’t know what the hell happened, cause on camera they pulled the card right out of Beatty’s hands and it said “Moonlight” on it. I know he claimed the card he had said “La La Land”, but on camera they pulled the card right out of his hand and showed it to the camera and it said “Moonlight”. Either way, Beatty still looked off to me, either somewhat drunk or somewhat high.
Or old?
I didn’t actually watch the end so I didn’t see it, but you are the first person I’ve heard say the card had Moonlight on it. Did anyone else see this? Every story I’ve read said he was given the wrong envelope.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/business/media/pwc-oscars-best-picture.html
He explained it himself when it happened. There are apparently two envelopes for every category, and he was mistakenly given the second envelope for the previous category (Best Actress - Emma Stone). You see when he reads it he got confused. He was probably unsure of what to do and showed it to Dunaway to be like “what’s happening here?” and she saw La La Land and just said that.
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Gigi
I get this movie mixed up with Gigli all the time.
WYSHS
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Warren Beatty, you are a jackass! I am willing to bet you were either drunk or high or combination thereof.
edit: Daye Dunaway is also an idiot since she is the one that actually said La La Land had won.
You do realize they were given the wrong card, right?
Well I don’t know what the hell happened, cause on camera they pulled the card right out of Beatty’s hands and it said “Moonlight” on it. I know he claimed the card he had said “La La Land”, but on camera they pulled the card right out of his hand and showed it to the camera and it said “Moonlight”. Either way, Beatty still looked off to me, either somewhat drunk or somewhat high.
Or old?
I didn’t actually watch the end so I didn’t see it, but you are the first person I’ve heard say the card had Moonlight on it. Did anyone else see this? Every story I’ve read said he was given the wrong envelope.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/business/media/pwc-oscars-best-picture.html
He explained it himself when it happened. There are apparently two envelopes for every category, and he was mistakenly given the second envelope for the previous category (Best Actress - Emma Stone). You see when he reads it he got confused. He was probably unsure of what to do and showed it to Dunaway to be like “what’s happening here?” and she saw La La Land and just said that.
I know all that, I’m wondering if anyone else can back up Warb’s assertion that the card he was given said Moonlight.
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The OJ doc winning was really dumb - even though I really liked it.
Technically it had a theatrical run. I do think it’s a bit of a cheat, but it’s still an incredible work.
And Zootopia winning seems really dumb - even though I haven’t seen it.
Well then why call it dumb?
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The OJ doc winning was really dumb - even though I really liked it.
Why was it dumb? It was a good documentary.
Because it was a tv documentary.
Well somehow, it meant the eligibility rules.
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Warren Beatty, you are a jackass! I am willing to bet you were either drunk or high or combination thereof.
edit: Daye Dunaway is also an idiot since she is the one that actually said La La Land had won.
You do realize they were given the wrong card, right?
Well I don’t know what the hell happened, cause on camera they pulled the card right out of Beatty’s hands and it said “Moonlight” on it. I know he claimed the card he had said “La La Land”, but on camera they pulled the card right out of his hand and showed it to the camera and it said “Moonlight”. Either way, Beatty still looked off to me, either somewhat drunk or somewhat high.
Or old?
I didn’t actually watch the end so I didn’t see it, but you are the first person I’ve heard say the card had Moonlight on it. Did anyone else see this? Every story I’ve read said he was given the wrong envelope.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/business/media/pwc-oscars-best-picture.html
Watch a video of it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQlbulzhGQs&feature=youtu.be&t=17s