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I don’t have the resources to get better or the time to wait until I do. I’m in debt up to my earballs from the last time I tried to get help. When I went to detox the doctor said I was six months from death if I didn’t stop. I figure I bought some time with the few months I went without coupled with the fact that I’m not drinking as much now because my tolerance isn’t nearly what it was yet, but I don’t care enough to stop it before it is so I’m sure it will be eventually.

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Hang in there buddy.

I spent a long time after I got dumped in Canada feeling like someone was constantly reaching into my chest and crushing my heart and lungs. Like, two and a half years where I barely coasted through life and almost dropped out of my masters degree with everything but my thesis complete haha.

I’m only just now getting back to my feet after clawing my way out of that pit. But the good news is that with time and distance, things can and will get better on that front.

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Recovery is like a fingerprint or a tree. It’s unique to everyone because dispite the exterior of the brain looking superficially identical to any other the network of neurons inside is a complete one off. It has the same first step though. Mercy, compassion, that sort of thing. There is a potential human being who is reasonably contented, functions in acceptable way and wants to live. They live in the future. You can save this person from certain destruction. If this person was someone with a name different from yours in immediate peril you would probably do the necessary. So why is it different for your potential future self? A detox centre is one of many routes to saving this person. Not all of them cost money but they all take commitment, patience and self mercy. It starts with you saying to yourself I want to save you. Then finding out what is available with the resources you have. All the best.

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All the ones accessible to me cost money and I’m in debt from the last time I went already. It’s fine

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I’ll probably calm down and back off the booze soon anyway. I’ve gone back and forth a few times anyway.

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Warbler said:

What about AA?

Yes, plenty of free options.

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Possessed said:

I’ll probably calm down and back off the booze soon anyway. I’ve gone back and forth a few times anyway.

That doesn’t need to cost anything.
It would be dangerous for you to immediately give up but keeping a record of your consumption and carefully reducing the trend of consumption (you will have bad days where you will drink more but if you can get the direction to point away from drinking you will make progress).
Some people don’t like AA, some of it’s methods are a bit cultish to be honest but it can be a good way of getting support from other people.
Most areas have something like a buddying system for people in recovery to monitor each other as for some people a group is not good fit.
As I said before no two people are identicle but resigning yourself to being soon dead is unfair on the guy you may be in the future. If being dead was a goal in life I doubt you would bother to tell people about it much. You sound more like you want to live without the reliance on the liquid holiday a glass can give.
Am I wrong?

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Bingowings said:

Possessed said:

I’ll probably calm down and back off the booze soon anyway. I’ve gone back and forth a few times anyway.

That doesn’t need to cost anything.
It would be dangerous for you to immediately give up but keeping a record of your consumption and carefully reducing the trend of consumption (you will have bad days where you will drink more but if you can get the direction to point away from drinking you will make progress).

Why would it be dangerous for him to immediately give up the booze? You sound like you are talking about more than just the odds of failure of successfully going cold turkey.

Some people don’t like AA, some of it’s methods are a bit cultish to be honest but it can be a good way of getting support from other people.

I didn’t know that it was cultish. I do know it helped someone I know.

As I said before no two people are identicle but resigning yourself to being soon dead is unfair on the guy you may be in the future.

I agree with Bingo here. When Bingo and I agree on something, you know there must be some truth to it.

If being dead was a goal in life I doubt you would bother to tell people about it much. You sound more like you want to live without the reliance on the liquid holiday a glass can give.
Am I wrong?

I don’t know think you are.

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Warbler said:

Why would it be dangerous for him to immediately give up the booze?

Alcoholics that go cold turkey without a proper detox process are susceptible to heart attacks, strokes and seizures. I have a friend who used to drink about a litre of whiskey a day and his doctor said if he went cold turkey without going through detox he would probably drop dead.

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Warbler said:

Bingowings said:

Possessed said:

I’ll probably calm down and back off the booze soon anyway. I’ve gone back and forth a few times anyway.

That doesn’t need to cost anything.
It would be dangerous for you to immediately give up but keeping a record of your consumption and carefully reducing the trend of consumption (you will have bad days where you will drink more but if you can get the direction to point away from drinking you will make progress).

Why would it be dangerous for him to immediately give up the booze? You sound like you are talking about more than just the odds of failure of successfully going cold turkey.

Some people don’t like AA, some of it’s methods are a bit cultish to be honest but it can be a good way of getting support from other people.

I didn’t know that it was cultish. I do know it helped someone I know.

As I said before no two people are identicle but resigning yourself to being soon dead is unfair on the guy you may be in the future.

I agree with Bingo here. When Bingo and I agree on something, you know there must be some truth to it.

If being dead was a goal in life I doubt you would bother to tell people about it much. You sound more like you want to live without the reliance on the liquid holiday a glass can give.
Am I wrong?

I don’t know think you are.

Going cold turkey on booze can be lethal.
It’s best to slowly reduce the trend until the habit is broken and always with medical consultation and monitoring.
And yes while some people find AA to be helpful for others there are cultish elements so it’s not for everyone but other options are out there.

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I’ve already gone through detox and was sober for several months. It was definitely dangerous to go cold turkey before (even though that’s what they made me do), but no I would say it is probably not dangerous. The addiction has not become physical yet, and I’m still not drinking throughout the day, just at night to wind down. (Except in cases where I am upset or distraught, see above). But I don’t think I’m in danger if I stop. Before I went to detox definitely, but I’m not drinking near as much now, I was merely contemplating purposefully starting again out of being upset, but I’m feeling a little better now so I think I’ll stick with a few beers at night.

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doubleKO said:

Warbler said:

Why would it be dangerous for him to immediately give up the booze?

Alcoholics that go cold turkey without a proper detox process are susceptible to heart attacks, strokes and seizures. I have a friend who used to drink about a litre of whiskey a day and his doctor said if he went cold turkey without going through detox he would probably drop dead.

I didn’t know this. But I assume this is for those that drink ALOT. Right? I mean if we are talking about someone that has a couple of drinks a day and not a whole litre, and goes cold turkey, is he susceptible to heart attacks, strokes and seizures?

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Bingowings said:

Warbler said:

Bingowings said:

Possessed said:

I’ll probably calm down and back off the booze soon anyway. I’ve gone back and forth a few times anyway.

That doesn’t need to cost anything.
It would be dangerous for you to immediately give up but keeping a record of your consumption and carefully reducing the trend of consumption (you will have bad days where you will drink more but if you can get the direction to point away from drinking you will make progress).

Why would it be dangerous for him to immediately give up the booze? You sound like you are talking about more than just the odds of failure of successfully going cold turkey.

Some people don’t like AA, some of it’s methods are a bit cultish to be honest but it can be a good way of getting support from other people.

I didn’t know that it was cultish. I do know it helped someone I know.

As I said before no two people are identicle but resigning yourself to being soon dead is unfair on the guy you may be in the future.

I agree with Bingo here. When Bingo and I agree on something, you know there must be some truth to it.

If being dead was a goal in life I doubt you would bother to tell people about it much. You sound more like you want to live without the reliance on the liquid holiday a glass can give.
Am I wrong?

I don’t know think you are.

Going cold turkey on booze can be lethal.
It’s best to slowly reduce the trend until the habit is broken and always with medical consultation and monitoring.

Something tells me the habit isn’t broken until long after slowly reducing the trend. I would think you need to be off the booze for a long while. (not that I know a whole lot about this)

And yes while some people find AA to be helpful for others there are cultish elements so it’s not for everyone but other options are out there.

I won’t debate you. I just know it helped a person I know.

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Man, I was scared to take that Abilify, but WOW, it’s helped more than anything else has so far. I’ve got an appointment with a psychiatrist next month too!

“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”

Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death

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Abilify is a miracle drug in many ways! Works so well for so many of my patients! It also comes in two different types of long-acting injections if you just want to take your medicine once a month or every six weeks. I’m glad you’ve finally found something that works for you! I don’t always reply, but I follow how you’re doing. Keep it up!

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AA really helped my father. One of the things that impressed me is that the system steers you towards helping others. The groups run everything themselves. It’s not perfect because the members aren’t perfect - they’re struggling to pull each other up by their bootstraps, and making some mistakes along the way. There are groups everywhere, so if you don’t click with one, there’s probably another one a mile or two away.

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Mike O said:

Man, I was scared to take that Abilify, but WOW, it’s helped more than anything else has so far. I’ve got an appointment with a psychiatrist next month too!

I’m very glad to here this. Good luck with your psychiatrist appointment.

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Good to hear, Mike!

Good perspective, Puggo!

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darth_ender said:

Abilify is a miracle drug in many ways! Works so well for so many of my patients! It also comes in two different types of long-acting injections if you just want to take your medicine once a month or every six weeks. I’m glad you’ve finally found something that works for you! I don’t always reply, but I follow how you’re doing. Keep it up!

Well, it was. I feel like I’m backsliding. This is the same thing that happened when the boost to my Prozac temporarily made me feel better. I’ve just been popping it as a pill, along with my Prozac and Klonopin. Much as I’d like to say “Oh, the medication made me better!” There’s still a ways to go, and hopefully the psychiatry will help too. I hope I’m making steps in the right direction and making an effort to feel better and not being too reliant on medication. I really do. This is going to be a long road, but God willing, I’ll come to the end of it different (whether I like it or not), but at least not worse. Hopefully even better.

How does it react with alcohol? I rarely drink, but if I ever do, I’d like to make sure I’m not killing myself.

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Mike O said:

Man, I was scared to take that Abilify, but WOW, it’s helped more than anything else has so far. I’ve got an appointment with a psychiatrist next month too!

I’m very glad to here this. Good luck with your psychiatrist appointment.

Well, like I said, much as I’d like to say “Well, I’m better now because of the medication,” as I mentioned, that’s clearly not working out a well (or as long) as I hoped. Either way, I’ve got this psychiatrist appointment now, we’ll see how that goes.

My dad pointed out something intelligent too: his doctor, while a nice guy (if a little odd), is even older than he is. I don’t have a family doctor/GP because I’ve always just used urgent care. This is particularly a shame, because such a person would be ideal to get to know me and recommend a therapist. So he’s suggested trying to find someone a little more in my age bracket, which I think is wise. It also make me a little nervous about this psychiatrist, but who knows? One day at a time is hard when some days are pretty good for the first time in a long time and other have me sliding back to the worse days.

“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”

Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death