Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo — Page 118

I’m curious what one of the few sane pro-gun people I know (Tyr) thinks about this.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/02/15/republicans-in-congress-just-made-it-easier-for-mentally-ill-people-to-get-guns/?utm_term=.7ba74facde16

Just found this gem.

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The Democrats had to come up with a story as to why they lost the election, and so badly (306), so they made up a story - RUSSIA. Fake news!

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FAKE NEWS media, which makes up stories and “sources,” is far more effective than the discredited Democrats - but they are fading fast!

doubleofive said:

Why is he so proud about getting less Electoral Votes than Obama or Clinton either time they were elected?

He used to say he won in a “landslide.” But since people kept making fun of him for losing the popular vote, he now says he won in an “electoral landslide” which is also nonsense.

I saw a clip from his “press conference” yesterday where he was asked about the rise of antisemitic incidents since his election, and his whole answer was about his electoral landslide.

JEDIT:

What a narcissistic asshole.

Sorry, I only read my own posts. 😉

TV’s Frink said:

I’m curious what one of the few sane pro-gun people I know (Tyr) thinks about this.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/02/15/republicans-in-congress-just-made-it-easier-for-mentally-ill-people-to-get-guns/?utm_term=.7ba74facde16

I’m curious too. You know people who are too mentally ill to handle their own fiances, they are just the ones we want having guns in their hands. There can be any trouble with that, can there?

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

I’m not a “pro-gun” person (although I’m not opposed to them if reasonably controlled). But I think that the way that argument goes is that it is easy to get on the “list”, even for very specific issues unrelated to being a threat. And once on the list, it can be hard to get off. Same argument for allowing people on the no-fly list to get guns. Not saying I agree with the argument, just sharing what I’ve heard.

I have difficulty seeing someone mentally ill enough that they can’t handle their own fiances, yet not so mentally illegal that can’t handle a gun.

Ryan McAvoy said:

In other news:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/life/89484563/People-can-t-handle-the-pics-of-Ivanka-Trump-swooning-over-Justin-Trudeau

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

I’m not a “pro-gun” person (although I’m not opposed to them if reasonably controlled). But I think that the way that argument goes is that it is easy to get on the “list”, even for very specific issues unrelated to being a threat. And once on the list, it can be hard to get off. Same argument for allowing people on the no-fly list to get guns. Not saying I agree with the argument, just sharing what I’ve heard.

I wonder if it’s too easy to get on the “not mentally fit to handle your own finances” list.

When it comes to guns I’d rather a few people be wrongly denied them than a few people be wrongly allowed them, especially if it’s a question of mental faculties.

Here’s a thing

http://www.people-press.org/2017/02/16/1-early-public-attitudes-about-donald-trump/

Ryan McAvoy said:

Whoa that press conference… words cannot… I’ve never seen a politician of any stripe give that level of sustained rambling incoherent crazy.

Oh man I missed this but here’s a transcript (along with annotations).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/02/16/donald-trumps-grievance-filled-press-conference-annotated/?utm_term=.365a17c75661

doubleofive said:

Why is he so proud about getting less Electoral Votes than Obama or Clinton either time they were elected?

Because he’s apparently convinced himself that he got more. It’s not a lie if you believe it.

And then coming to Washington and pursuing their own interests which is more important to many politicians. I’m here following through on what I pledged to do. That’s all I’m doing. I put it out before the American people, got 306 electoral college votes. I wasn’t supposed to get 222. They said there’s no way to get 222, 230’s impossible.

270 which you need, that was laughable. We got 306 because people came out and voted like they’ve never seen before so that’s the way it goes. I guess it was the biggest electoral college win since Ronald Reagan.

BULLSHIT

What the hell is this supposed to mean?

QUESTION: I just want to get you to clarify this very important point. Can you say definitively that nobody on your campaign had any contacts with the Russians during the campaign? And on the leaks, is it fake news or are these real leaks?

TRUMP: Well the leaks are real. You’re the one that wrote about them and reported them, I mean the leaks are real. You know what they said, you saw it and the leaks are absolutely real. The news is fake because so much of the news is fake. So one thing that I felt it was very important to do – and I hope we can correct it. Because there’s nobody I have more respect for – well, maybe a little bit but the reporters, good reporters.

It’s very important to me and especially in this position. It’s very important. I don’t mind bad stories. I can handle a bad story better than anybody as long as it’s true and, you know, over a course of time, I’ll make mistakes and you’ll write badly and I’m OK with that. But I’m not OK when it is fake. I mean, I watch CNN, it’s so much anger and hatred and just the hatred.

My favorite exchange:

QUESTION: Well, when you say the inner cities, are you going – are you going to include the CBC, Mr. President, in your conversations with your – your urban agenda, your inner city agenda, as well as –

TRUMP: Am I going to include who?

QUESTION: Are you going to include the Congressional Black Caucus and the Congressional –

TRUMP: Well, I would. I tell you what, do you want to set up the meeting?

QUESTION: – Hispanic Caucus –

TRUMP: Do you want to set up the meeting?

QUESTION: No – no – no. I’m not –

TRUMP: Are they friends of yours?

QUESTION: I’m just a reporter.

TRUMP: Well, then(ph) set up the meeting.

QUESTION: I know some of them, but I’m sure they’re watching right now.

TRUMP: Let’s go set up a meeting. I would love to meet with the Black Caucus. I think it’s great, the Congressional Black Caucus. I think it’s great. I actually thought I had a meeting with Congressman Cummings and he was all excited. And then he said, well, I can’t move, it might be bad for me politically. I can’t have that meeting.

I was all set to have the meeting. You know, we called him and called him. And he was all set. I spoke to him on the phone, very nice guy.

QUESTION: I hear he wanted that meeting with you as well.

TRUMP: He wanted it, but we called, called, called and can’t make a meeting with him. Every day I walk and say I would like to meet with him because I do want to solve the problem. But he probably was told by Schumer or somebody like that, some other lightweight. He was probably told - he was probably told “don’t meet with Trump. It’s bad politics.”

And that’s part of the problem in this country. OK, one more.

DominicCobb said:

Here’s a thing

http://www.people-press.org/2017/02/16/1-early-public-attitudes-about-donald-trump/

Something is wrong with the percentage under Trunp. When you add up the % that approve (39), to the % that disapprove (56), to the number that don’t know (6), you get 101%. That does not make sense.

FAKE NEWS!!!