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Warbler
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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12-Feb-2017, 11:09 PM

DominicCobb said:

Immigration laws are there for a reason, yes, and I agree with the reason. But breaking them is not so heinous a crime as murder or rape, or even assault or theft.

I never it was as heinous as murder or rape, just illegal.

Saying it’s their fault for being stigmatized is just blaming the victim.

Victims? Did sometime point a gun at them and force them to cross the border illegally? Did they not know it was illegal to cross the border before they did it?

These people have lived a tough life. Do you think it was easy for them to leave their country and come here?

I am sure it was a tough life. But I do think was easier for them to leave their country than it was for all the people that did it legally.

Just because they broke the law doesn’t mean we should treat them like criminals.

um, that is exactly how we treat people that broke the law . . . We treat them like they broke the broke the law . . that is technically what a criminal is . . . someone who breaks the law.

I would say that yes you are falling into a trap of rigidity of thought and making blanket judgements.

if that were the case I wouldn’t be open to not deporting them, and I am open to that. I think you are falling in trap of doing just the opposite: ignoring facts and logic.

I break the law nearly every day by jaywalking but that doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be allowed to cross the street.

but if a cop sees you do it and does whatever the law says should be done in a such a case, are really a victim?

And so why deportation can be such an overly harsh punishment.

again, I am open to alternatives.

When I say these people are citizens of the land they call home, I mean just because they don’t have papers doesn’t mean they don’t live here.

of course they live here . . . illegally. They are not citizens. They are not legal immigrants. They do not have visas.

That woman who was deported has lived in America longer than I have. But she wasn’t as fortunate as I.

again, there is no law that says if you are able to evade deportation long enough, you are granted legal status. Sorry it doesn’t work like that, no matte how much you want it. If you don’t like our laws, by all means fight to have them changed.