Nor were any of the “continuity” changes. This is logic I could see Lucas following honestly.
I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.
I guess it’s a pointless enough change that it would fit perfectly in the SE. Though this line of thought opens up a can of worms. Might as well ask why Lucas didn’t do any number of other random changes though. Why didn’t he give Luke a sombrero? We could do this all day.
Random shower thought:
Why didn’t GL change Obi-Wan’s line…
“You can’t win, Darth…” to “You can’t win, Vader…” ?
Why would he?
When Lucas wrote that line, Darth was his name. It made sense to call him Darth. But somewhere along the line, Darth became a title. Vader was his identifier, Darth was just a prefix.
Random shower thought:
Why didn’t GL change Obi-Wan’s line…
“You can’t win, Darth…” to “You can’t win, Vader…” ?
Why would he?
When Lucas wrote that line, Darth was his name. It made sense to call him Darth. But somewhere along the line, Darth became a title. Vader was his identifier, Darth was just a prefix.
So? No one’s ever referred to someone by just a title before? You’re telling me we don’t hear people refer to others in SW as just “general” or “captain” or “count” or “master” or “princess”?
Random shower thought:
Why didn’t GL change Obi-Wan’s line…
“You can’t win, Darth…” to “You can’t win, Vader…” ?
Why would he?
When Lucas wrote that line, Darth was his name. It made sense to call him Darth. But somewhere along the line, Darth became a title. Vader was his identifier, Darth was just a prefix.
So? No one’s ever referred to someone by just a title before? You’re telling me we don’t hear people refer to others in SW as just “general” or “captain” or “count” or “master” or “princess”?
I don’t think referring to him by a title makes sense in this context, since it’s supposed to be a very personal moment for the two of them.
“Only a master of evil, Darth.” Seems a perfectly fitting place to use his title, personal moment or not.
Anyway, if Lucas was going to change it to make it more “personal,” why would he change it to Anakin?
“Only a master of evil, Darth.” Seems a perfectly fitting place to use his title, personal moment or not.
Anyway, if Lucas was going to change it to make it more “personal,” why would he change it to Anakin?
I think if Ben put more emphasis on the Darth, said it in an vaguely spiteful tone, I’d be fine with it. Almost as if to point out that he’s just another Sith Lord, his own identity has been stripped away from him. He just says Darth very casually, IMO, as if Darth were a first name. I think either Vader or Anakin would’ve worked too.
Perhaps he raised the question because the prequels turned Darth from a cool name into a lame title.
Why not both? I say we need a sith named Darth Darth.
I’m pretty certain this was the case in one of Frink’s edits.
Perhaps he raised the question because the prequels turned Darth from a cool name into a lame title.
Why not both? I say we need a sith named Darth Darth.
I’m pretty certain this was the case in one of Frink’s edits.
Yes, I renamed Darth Maul as Darth Darth.
Random shower thought:
Why didn’t GL change Obi-Wan’s line…
“You can’t win, Darth…” to “You can’t win, Vader…” ?
He never changed that…
I’ve always wanted to make love to an angry welder, I’ve dreamed of nothing else since I was a small boy.
Random shower thought:
Why didn’t GL change Obi-Wan’s line…
“You can’t win, Darth…” to “You can’t win, Vader…” ?
He never changed that…
You might want to read the whole post again…
Perhaps he raised the question because the prequels turned Darth from a cool name into a lame title.
Why not both? I say we need a sith named Darth Darth.
I’m pretty certain this was the case in one of Frink’s edits.
Yes, I renamed Darth Maul as Darth Darth.
I knew Susskopf’s suggestion rang a bell.
Ha. Memories.
Good gag.
Random shower thought:
Why didn’t GL change Obi-Wan’s line…
“You can’t win, Darth…” to “You can’t win, Vader…” ?
He never changed that…
You might want to read the whole post again…
Oh yeah now I see. Nvm then
I’ve always wanted to make love to an angry welder, I’ve dreamed of nothing else since I was a small boy.
Call me crazy, but I like the “Nooo!” added in ROTJ.
“That said, there is nothing wrong with mocking prequel lovers and belittling their bad taste.” - Alderaan, 2017
MGGA (Make GOUT Great Again):
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Return-of-the-GOUT-Preservation-and-Restoration/id/55707
You’re crazy.
You were right about the 1993 mixes that you mentioned in another thread though. Damn, they do sound good. Much better than the blu rays.
Call me crazy, but I like the “Nooo!” added in ROTJ.
Do not want.
Call me crazy, but I like the “Nooo!” added in ROTJ.
http://38.media.tumblr.com/a90b591b2f560e4d00f22d17d3057485/tumblr_npxa4ehB7R1s27326o2_r1_540.gif
You’re crazy.
Call me crazy, but I like the “Nooo!” added in ROTJ.
Do not want.
Call me crazy, but I like the “Nooo!” added in ROTJ.
I deserve this - but it’s mostly relative to the other changes in JEDI. I’d rather have Vader scream “Noooo!” throughout the entirety of the film than ever hear Jedi Rocks ever again…
It’s not annoying (to me at least), adds some more drama to the scene (albiet schlocky drama), and I was never a fan of Vader’s silent redemption. Please have mercy on me - I just want to watch movies maaaaan.
Now, Luke’s scream in EMPIRE, there is absolutely no defense for liking that change…
“That said, there is nothing wrong with mocking prequel lovers and belittling their bad taste.” - Alderaan, 2017
MGGA (Make GOUT Great Again):
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Return-of-the-GOUT-Preservation-and-Restoration/id/55707
There is absolutely no defense for liking either scream.
There is absolutely no defense for liking either scream.
Objectively, yes - it’s not great. But subjectively, it’s all preference, no matter how flawed.
“That said, there is nothing wrong with mocking prequel lovers and belittling their bad taste.” - Alderaan, 2017
MGGA (Make GOUT Great Again):
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Return-of-the-GOUT-Preservation-and-Restoration/id/55707
There is absolutely no defense for liking either scream.
Objectively, yes - it’s not great. But subjectively, it’s all preference, no matter how flawed.
Then there’s no reason to say this:
Now, Luke’s scream in EMPIRE, there is absolutely no defense for liking that change…
There is absolutely no defense for liking either scream.
Objectively, yes - it’s not great. But subjectively, it’s all preference, no matter how flawed.
Then there’s no reason to say this:
Now, Luke’s scream in EMPIRE, there is absolutely no defense for liking that change…
Sure, there’s no valid defense, but if someone likes it - then let them like it. You would be right had I said “There is absolutely no reason for liking that change”.
“That said, there is nothing wrong with mocking prequel lovers and belittling their bad taste.” - Alderaan, 2017
MGGA (Make GOUT Great Again):
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Return-of-the-GOUT-Preservation-and-Restoration/id/55707
I don’t like any of them, I am on the side of remastering the history no matter how ugly it gets. It all took time and effort. This other stuff… it’s all junk, purely junk. The hilarious part is there are still continuity errors and things like R2 shots being recycled they could have got away with fixing. Instead of logical things it’s just nonsensical madness. Some things seem to have a logic yet others don’t. Like minor things are screwed with but the sabres have never been repainted. Why change once Bespin window but not the next? And then there are pink blades that change colour shot to shot… good grief.
Heres a little list
The New Sandcrawler
That Aurebesh replaced English
R2’s color correction, Blue R2 not Black R2
Oolas Raincore Pit extension
Removal of the Cardboard Cutouts in ANH and replacing with actual people (BEST CHANGE)
Better Lightsaber Effects
Blast Doors
Biggs Darklighter
Now i love that we have the Despecialized Edition, But i wish we had a Harmys Special Edition with the Good things that were added/fixed.
Tyler0013 said:
Now i love that we have the Despecialized Edition, But i wish we had a Harmys Special Edition with the Good things that were added/fixed.
You can make a fanedit yourself, which is what I’m doing. Not everyone will agree on which changes are good and which are bad though.
Speaking of which, I agree with most of your list, but why do you think the extended rancor scene is good? It’s repetitive, since you already get to see the same **** going on in the scene with Luke and the guard. The off-camera screams in the original were enough to cue in the audience that something bad happened to people who fall down there. It also built suspense towards what Luke was up against, when that big giant metal door slowly opens and reveals the Rancor. The SE change is a terrible editing mistake.
