ROTJ is the best Star Wars film... discuss! — Page 42

Ryan McAvoy said:

Lord Haseo said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Lord Haseo said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

Katarnan said:

ROTJ has that horrible music sequence which drives me nuts. It’s a foreshadowing of the cringe-worthy moments in the prequels, me thinks.

I disagree that any scene in ROTJ is “horrible”

What of Ewok story time? That was pretty bad man…

I actually like the story time scene…

I think that idea should have been used for the Holiday Special.

Nah. In the Holiday Special it wouldn’t have been Threepio telling our heroes story, featuring just the best bits… it would have been Chewbacca re-telling the story across a full 4-hours in untranslated Wookiee growls.

The scene feels like the SW equivalent of the Bard sitting round the fire telling stories of might and legend.

Totally Star Wars and not horrid in the slightest. By the way, it’s true… all of it.

It would have been better if this had been told to anything besides teddy bears…Makes the whole ordeal seem silly to me and SW nor ESB never had moments that silly so it creates somewhat of a disconnect.

Ryan McAvoy said:

The original “seedy” ‘Lapti Nek’ music is great IMO.

Really? I mean, it’s better than Jedi Rocks, but so is a kick in the balls.

TV’s Frink said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

The original “seedy” ‘Lapti Nek’ music is great IMO.

Really? I mean, it’s better than Jedi Rocks, but so is a kick in the balls.

Bingowings said:

Choose the Force. Choose a brown bath robe. Choose a life of contemplative solitude. Choose not to have a family. Choose a laser sword, choose bleeping robots, airspeeders, stolen data tapes and tractor beam controls. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and being a mentor to the son of the guy you left limbless and slowly cooking on the side of a lava lake. Choose a stupid rat tail mullet for the peak years of your career. Choose a hovel, Choose your friends. Choose mind tricks and matching lies. Choose a trip to Alderaan for almost the price of starship. Choose a rubbish alias and wondering if you ever owned a droid and where you put that lightsaber you pinched off that friend you left for dead. Choose sitting on that commode chair watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing senate and council meetings, stuffing jawa juice down your neck. Choose fading away at the end of it all, pishing your last as a ghost in a swamp, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, freak faced, big eared gnome-thing written into the sequel to replace yourself.

Choose your future.

Choose the Force.

I choose not to choose the Force.

I chose something else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you’ve got death sticks?

Apparently I’ve neglected this thread for a year, so never saw this.
But since it got no appreciation at the time, I’m gonna award it the Better-Late-Than-Never Darth Id’s Comment of the Year (2016)!
Well done WinduBeans! Come on down to the Spice Outlet of Kessel to claim your prize!

p.s. the Begbie shtick was funny, too. I really missed out.

Tyrphanax said:
I’m not sure if this was brought up at the time, but at the end of the credits of the Star Wars: Obi-Wan game for the original Xbox, the (awful) voice actor they got for Obi-Wan gives the Trainspotting monologue in Star Wars format as well.

Damn, what were they thinking when they chose this guy for the voice. Yeeesh!

Tyrphanax said:

Darth Id said:

Bingowings said:

Choose the Force. Choose a brown bath robe. Choose a life of contemplative solitude. Choose not to have a family. Choose a laser sword, choose bleeping robots, airspeeders, stolen data tapes and tractor beam controls. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and being a mentor to the son of the guy you left limbless and slowly cooking on the side of a lava lake. Choose a stupid rat tail mullet for the peak years of your career. Choose a hovel, Choose your friends. Choose mind tricks and matching lies. Choose a trip to Alderaan for almost the price of starship. Choose a rubbish alias and wondering if you ever owned a droid and where you put that lightsaber you pinched off that friend you left for dead. Choose sitting on that commode chair watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing senate and council meetings, stuffing jawa juice down your neck. Choose fading away at the end of it all, pishing your last as a ghost in a swamp, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, freak faced, big eared gnome-thing written into the sequel to replace yourself.

Choose your future.

Choose the Force.

I choose not to choose the Force.

I chose something else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you’ve got death sticks?

Apparently I’ve neglected this thread for a year, so never saw this.
But since it got no appreciation at the time, I’m gonna award it the Better-Late-Than-Never Darth Id’s Comment of the Year (2016)!
Well done WinduBeans! Come on down to the Spice Outlet of Kessel to claim your prize!

p.s. the Begbie shtick was funny, too. I really missed out.

I’m not sure if this was brought up at the time, but at the end of the credits of the Star Wars: Obi-Wan game for the original Xbox, the (awful) voice actor they got for Obi-Wan gives the Trainspotting monologue in Star Wars format as well.

Bingywingy’s pummels the living Jawa-juice out of X-box’s, although I still give the game developers credit for the clever idea. I didn’t make the Rent-boy/Rat-tailed Ginger Obi-wan shared-actor connection before hearing that.
Interesting both versions centered around “Choose the Force.”

ATMachine said:

Sougouk said:

Tyrphanax said:
I’m not sure if this was brought up at the time, but at the end of the credits of the Star Wars: Obi-Wan game for the original Xbox, the (awful) voice actor they got for Obi-Wan gives the Trainspotting monologue in Star Wars format as well.

Damn, what were they thinking when they chose this guy for the voice. Yeeesh!

He sounds very Scottish. Ewan McGregor is also a Scot, but he plays Obi-Wan with an English accent to match Alec Guinness. The in-game dialogue sounds like the actor was also trying to do this and not succeeding.

Yes, the guy was trying to do an Ewan McGregor voice, but failed miserably. At first I thought it was a joke voice-over.

suspiciouscoffee said:

Also, this part scared the crap out of me when I was… 4 maybe? I can’t remember how old I was.

This is the best scene ! XD

I always enjoy Jedi but it starts to sag in the middle, Dagobah and parts of the Endor moon kill the pacing. But I forget all that once Luke loses his cool and that music swells.

ATMachine said:

Sougouk said:

Tyrphanax said:
I’m not sure if this was brought up at the time, but at the end of the credits of the Star Wars: Obi-Wan game for the original Xbox, the (awful) voice actor they got for Obi-Wan gives the Trainspotting monologue in Star Wars format as well.

Damn, what were they thinking when they chose this guy for the voice. Yeeesh!

He sounds very Scottish. Ewan McGregor is also a Scot, but he plays Obi-Wan with an English accent to match Alec Guinness. The in-game dialogue sounds like the actor was also trying to do this and not succeeding.

It sounds like a Scot, alright. Not a Scot trying to sound like Alec Guiness; a Scot trying sound like a Valley Boy.

Exactly, the wrath of Lucas was not kind to ROTJ, when it came to all the SE changes.

Let’s make ROTJ great again!

Ryan McAvoy said:

Sougouk said:

Let’s make ROTJ great again!

Harmy already did.

Yeah, I known.

As a kid, RotJ was my favorite of the bunch. I loved the wide variety of scenery and locations, I loved the speeder bike chase, I loved the Eewoks and Jabba as completely new takes on aliens that I hadn’t seen before, and I loved badass jedi Luke. As I got older, I started to appreciate how subtly funny ESB really was and it became my favorite, but RotJ still holds a special place in my heart.

I think what I like so much about Return is that it tosses you right into this deep-cover infiltration that the gang is doing to get Han back. As a kid I was as confused as 3PO when Luke gave them as gifts to Jabba, and looking back on it was neat to see the heroes in a real pickle right at the start of the flick.

ahecht said:

As a kid, RotJ was my favorite of the bunch. I loved the wide variety of scenery and locations, I loved the speeder bike chase, I loved the Eewoks and Jabba as completely new takes on aliens that I hadn’t seen before, and I loved badass jedi Luke. As I got older, I started to appreciate how subtly funny ESB really was and it became my favorite, but RotJ still holds a special place in my heart.

Yup!

daneditor said:

I don’t think many of us “hate” ROTJ. Personally I find it suffers in comparison to the first two in a number of ways:

_It feels like they’re going through the motions. Lucas seems to just want to get it all over with, and the actors (except Hamill) are just pay checking it
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_It’s too juvenile and toy-oriented
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Han and Leia are given nothing meaningful to do

Fett dies embarrassingly

The ground battle on Endor is way too small and lacking in epic moments that the big finale should have

But it’s not a bad movie per se, it’s just bad compared with SW and Empire. Of course it’s Casablanca compared with the prequels.

I love ROTJ (and as a kid it was my favorite), but I largely agree with this critique.

I think ROTJ has the highest highs of the OT, but also the lowest lows. There’s also much more sloppy work in ROTJ and less attention to detail in parts. I mean you have possibly the best pre-digital effects sequence ever filmed (the Endor space battle) broken up by one of the worst effects shots in the entire saga (the SSD crashing into the death star).

Still other than the Ewoks and Endor battle I think most of the movie is great (Some of the Jabba palace stuff is a bit sloppy too, but I personally really enjoy Luke going HAM on everyone so I forgive some of it).