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Most of the Han Solo trilogy. (books)
Episode IV - Original version + Tosche station and all Biggs scenes. No Jabba.
Episode V - Original version. No cutting arm off a wampa. Original hologram dialog.
Episode VI - Original version + Luke building saber in Obi-Wan's hut and sandstorm.

I don't want the Jabba scene in In ANH as it does not make sense to me that Jabba would be so forgiving towards Han Solo.

The prequels were cheap dramatizations made in the Star Wars universe, broadcast on the Holonet as a miniseries some 50-odd years after the battle of Endor. Because many records were lost during the Empire and in the destruction of Alderaan and also because of the time constraints for a rushed Holonet production, the creators took a lot of creative decisions that were not true to history.
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I don't like the Jabba scene in ANH because Jabba looks really dumb, and Han looks like an idiot, jerkily walking over his tail.
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We have a fresher thread here, but I wanted to limit the discussion to films only.

Some time after the Prequel trilogy I realized that the best way to deal with its numerous problems would be to simply reject it as a whole. Sure even a purist like me would find some nice designs/shots, but the rest trampled over the universe/story/characters.

That is why after all those years of STAR WARS enduring offenses from SE, PT and now ST… I almost can’t believe myself that I am accepting Rogue One. That would make it the first real SW film in what, 30+ years?

Other unpleasant truths we sometimes need to face…

Just as we elevate and accept the problematic ROTJ thanks to the quality of ANH and ESB and thus recognize the whole trilogy as a whole (think about it! ROTJ was a rush to wrap up the story), is it possible to accept one film from a given trilogy and reject another? Or vice versa?

Maybe if I disliked TPM only because of kid-Anakin, it could be possible for me to accept the following two? I wonder…

If I dislike and reject TFA due to major problems (e.g.: setting, main antagonist) that simply cannot be undone, no matter how good TLJ could be, how can I possibly look forward to the two remaining episodes?

I saw the original theatrical release of the Old Trilogy on the big screen and I'm proud of it...
How did I accomplish that (considering my age) is my secret...
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As movies go, it’s R1, OT, TFA.

My full personal canon is all on a Word document on a flash drive and I don’t feel like copying and pasting it, whilst also needing to edit it to work in Markdown. I guess I could put it on a Google doc and paste the link, but I don’t feel like doing that right now.

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I accept the broad strokes of the PT A.) because it makes following the comics easier and B.) because I’ve never been hugely invested in Anakin Skywalker’s story anyway, so it’s not like I have this elaborate personal canon that I prefer to the official version. I do my best to ignore details I find aesthetically offensive like R2’s ability to fly and Yoda’s use of a lightsaber (this is made easier by fan edits), but on a macro level my attitude toward the prequels is less “no, that’s no the true, that’s impossible!” and more “yeah, whatever, ok”.

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Mielr said:

The first three- SW, ESB and ROTJ. They’re the only three, as far as I’m concerned.

Honestly, I don’t even think of the PT as Star Wars movies.

Pretty much. TFA and R1 are okay, but I don’t take them seriously.

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My personal canon is Rogue One onward to TFA. The backstory laid out throughout the OT is sufficient enough so the PT is worthless and Rogue One is all I need in terms of seeing what happened prior to STAR WARS.

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SW & TESB are the only films I wholeheartedly accept as canon. While I also accept ROTJ as canon, I do so only begrudgingly, and only because the post-ROTJ EU stories I consider canon reference the events and revelations of the film too much to make ignoring it sensible.

[JEDIT]

I guess I also consider The Holiday Special quasi-canonical. It’s just too batshit insane for me to discount it.

[RETURN OF THE JEDIT]

I haven’t yet seen Rogue One, just so y’all know.

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I don’t believe in canon. I just watch the movies I like and ignore the ones I don’t.

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TV’s Frink said:

I don’t believe in canon. I just watch the movies I like and ignore the ones I don’t.

That’s essentially just saying your head canon is whatever you watch. It’s basically the same way I feel, since the official canon was messed up by the prequels and special editions anyway, it’s just easiest to watch the OT and not worry about the rest. TFA is also in my own personal head canon, and while I enjoy R1, I’m not super comfortable having it as a part of my personal canon. I can’t really articulate why, but it’s probably because Star Wars is just such a good jumping-off point that the information presented in R1 is entirely superfluous. It’s also tonally way more serious than the OT and TFA, so it doesn’t fit in as well.

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TV’s Frink said:

I don’t believe in canon. I just watch the movies I like and ignore the ones I don’t.

Bravo! Accepting some and ignoring the rest is essentially personal canon.

真実

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TV’s Frink said:

I don’t believe in canon. I just watch the movies I like and ignore the ones I don’t.

That’s a good way to put it. Official canons set by a bunch of guys at marketing shouldn’t effect what you enjoy from a specific franchise, and is one of the worst things to happen to entertainment in the past 10-20 years. Canon should only be important to the people writing a coherent narrative.

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Who cares? I to watch good movies. I couldn’t give less of a shit what’s in the bad ones. If you call that head canon you’re over thinking things.

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I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.

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I don’t restrict myself to a single canon. If multiple canons were good enough for JS Bach, they’re good enough for me.

“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”

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Handman said:

TV’s Frink said:

I don’t believe in canon. I just watch the movies I like and ignore the ones I don’t.

That’s a good way to put it. Official canons set by a bunch of guys at marketing shouldn’t effect what you enjoy from a specific franchise, and is one of the worst things to happen to entertainment in the past 10-20 years. Canon should only be important to the people writing a coherent narrative.

Except that this thread is not asking for official canon.

真実

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Whether you call it canon or not, what we’re talking about here is what “really” happened in the Star Wars universe, within our own little headspaces.

For me, these things are real:
OUT, TFA
and maybe R1. Still haven’t absorbed that yet. I see the PT more as a legend within the SW universe–a collective creative remembering of things that might or might not have happened, which is why it doesn’t make a lot of sense. The only things I consider true about the PT are the things referenced in the OUT.

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OOOOOT, The Force Awakens, Rogue One, The Clone Wars (CGI Cartoon, Chronological). Whatever fan edit for PT, I dunno.
I don’t own any Star Wars movies in any form. Just the custom cuts since to me it’s worthless to spend money on them. Not much of a fan anymore but I will buy the movie tickets. No, no merchandise either.