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dahmage said:

Jetrell Fo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Three days prior to inauguration but relevant and disconcerting.

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/01/19/never-seen-anything-gaping-holes-trumps-foreign-policy-team

Many aspects of President-elect Donald Trump’s transition have been described as disorganized (at best), but his administration’s approach to foreign policy “appears” particularly rudderless, raising concerns among domestic experts and international allies alike.

The defining part of the article is the quoted word above … “appears”, and that is an opinion, not fact. LOL

ok, i can respect your point that you should work to make things better (from your previous post, not this one). but what i don’t respect is your constant brushing aside of every piece of information as being opinion, and not fact. the opinion of the matter is, that almost all information that is out there is not fact. if you can’t deal with finding the shadow of the facts by sifting through and weighing opinions, then I don’t know… ? i don’t know.

When the entire opinion is presented as fact, especially from someone that is supposed to be intelligent, I don’t know what to tell you. Opinions are like elbows, we all have them, it just doesn’t make them fact. I am totally okay with people not liking the guy, but we are supposed to be debating, not using our emotions to say that we are right and the rest of you are wrong. It’s wasted breath really.

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http://www.theonion.com/article/open-minded-man-grimly-realizes-how-much-life-hes--19273

During an unexpected moment of clarity Tuesday, open-minded man Blake Richman was suddenly struck by the grim realization that he’s squandered a significant portion of his life listening to everyone’s bullshit, the 38-year-old told reporters.

A visibly stunned and solemn Richman, who until this point regarded his willingness to hear out the opinions of others as a worthwhile quality, estimated that he’s wasted nearly three and a half years of his existence being open to people’s half-formed thoughts, asinine suggestions, and pointless, dumbfuck stories.

“Jesus Christ,” said Richman, taking in the overwhelming volume of useless crap he’s actively listened to over the years. “My whole life I’ve made a concerted effort to give people a fair shake and understand different points of view because I felt that everyone had something valuable to offer, but it turns out most of what they had to offer was complete bullshit.”

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TV’s Frink said:

dahmage said:

Jetrell Fo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Three days prior to inauguration but relevant and disconcerting.

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/01/19/never-seen-anything-gaping-holes-trumps-foreign-policy-team

Many aspects of President-elect Donald Trump’s transition have been described as disorganized (at best), but his administration’s approach to foreign policy “appears” particularly rudderless, raising concerns among domestic experts and international allies alike.

The defining part of the article is the quoted word above … “appears”, and that is an opinion, not fact. LOL

ok, i can respect your point that you should work to make things better (from your previous post, not this one). but what i don’t respect is your constant brushing aside of every piece of information as being opinion, and not fact. the opinion of the matter is, that almost all information that is out there is not fact. if you can’t deal with finding the shadow of the facts by sifting through and weighing opinions, then I don’t know… ? i don’t know.

I do wonder at what point I’m allowed to stop giving Trump another chance. 70 years hasn’t been enough. 2 years of campaigning hasn’t been enough. 2 weeks of a nonstop shitshow hasn’t been enough. Is 2 months more enough? 2 more years? Will I ever be allowed to question anything that Saint Trump has done or said?

dahmage, I’m relying on you to guide me on this matter. What ever your counsel, I will follow it.

And this is exactly the tripe I’m talking about.

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TV’s Frink said:

dahmage said:

Jetrell Fo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Three days prior to inauguration but relevant and disconcerting.

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/01/19/never-seen-anything-gaping-holes-trumps-foreign-policy-team

Many aspects of President-elect Donald Trump’s transition have been described as disorganized (at best), but his administration’s approach to foreign policy “appears” particularly rudderless, raising concerns among domestic experts and international allies alike.

The defining part of the article is the quoted word above … “appears”, and that is an opinion, not fact. LOL

ok, i can respect your point that you should work to make things better (from your previous post, not this one). but what i don’t respect is your constant brushing aside of every piece of information as being opinion, and not fact. the opinion of the matter is, that almost all information that is out there is not fact. if you can’t deal with finding the shadow of the facts by sifting through and weighing opinions, then I don’t know… ? i don’t know.

I do wonder at what point I’m allowed to stop giving Trump another chance. 70 years hasn’t been enough. 2 years of campaigning hasn’t been enough. 2 weeks of a nonstop shitshow hasn’t been enough. Is 2 months more enough? 2 more years? Will I ever be allowed to question anything that Saint Trump has done or said?

dahmage, I’m relying on you to guide me on this matter. What ever your counsel, I will follow it.

as for me and my house? we have stopped giving trump a chance about 2 minutes into his campaign. I have never seen a reason to go back on that. As soon as i see reason from him, that will be a reason to start giving him a chance again.

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dahmage said:

TV’s Frink said:

dahmage said:

Jetrell Fo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Three days prior to inauguration but relevant and disconcerting.

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/01/19/never-seen-anything-gaping-holes-trumps-foreign-policy-team

Many aspects of President-elect Donald Trump’s transition have been described as disorganized (at best), but his administration’s approach to foreign policy “appears” particularly rudderless, raising concerns among domestic experts and international allies alike.

The defining part of the article is the quoted word above … “appears”, and that is an opinion, not fact. LOL

ok, i can respect your point that you should work to make things better (from your previous post, not this one). but what i don’t respect is your constant brushing aside of every piece of information as being opinion, and not fact. the opinion of the matter is, that almost all information that is out there is not fact. if you can’t deal with finding the shadow of the facts by sifting through and weighing opinions, then I don’t know… ? i don’t know.

I do wonder at what point I’m allowed to stop giving Trump another chance. 70 years hasn’t been enough. 2 years of campaigning hasn’t been enough. 2 weeks of a nonstop shitshow hasn’t been enough. Is 2 months more enough? 2 more years? Will I ever be allowed to question anything that Saint Trump has done or said?

dahmage, I’m relying on you to guide me on this matter. What ever your counsel, I will follow it.

as for me and my house? we have stopped giving trump a chance about 2 minutes into his campaign. I have never seen a reason to go back on that. As soon as i see reason from him, that will be a reason to start giving him a chance again.

I thank you for your guidance. I was willing to give Trump another chance starting right now, but you’ve convinced me to do otherwise.

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You guys are silly … bromancing and all that, LOL.

😃

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TV’s Frink said:

dahmage said:

TV’s Frink said:

dahmage said:

Jetrell Fo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Three days prior to inauguration but relevant and disconcerting.

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/01/19/never-seen-anything-gaping-holes-trumps-foreign-policy-team

Many aspects of President-elect Donald Trump’s transition have been described as disorganized (at best), but his administration’s approach to foreign policy “appears” particularly rudderless, raising concerns among domestic experts and international allies alike.

The defining part of the article is the quoted word above … “appears”, and that is an opinion, not fact. LOL

ok, i can respect your point that you should work to make things better (from your previous post, not this one). but what i don’t respect is your constant brushing aside of every piece of information as being opinion, and not fact. the opinion of the matter is, that almost all information that is out there is not fact. if you can’t deal with finding the shadow of the facts by sifting through and weighing opinions, then I don’t know… ? i don’t know.

I do wonder at what point I’m allowed to stop giving Trump another chance. 70 years hasn’t been enough. 2 years of campaigning hasn’t been enough. 2 weeks of a nonstop shitshow hasn’t been enough. Is 2 months more enough? 2 more years? Will I ever be allowed to question anything that Saint Trump has done or said?

dahmage, I’m relying on you to guide me on this matter. What ever your counsel, I will follow it.

as for me and my house? we have stopped giving trump a chance about 2 minutes into his campaign. I have never seen a reason to go back on that. As soon as i see reason from him, that will be a reason to start giving him a chance again.

I thank you for your guidance. I was willing to give Trump another chance starting right now, but you’ve convinced me to do otherwise.

don’t worry about it. My bill is in the mail.

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Jetrell Fo said:

You guys are silly … bromancing and all that, LOL.

😃

that’s your opinion.

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dahmage said:

TV’s Frink said:

dahmage said:

TV’s Frink said:

dahmage said:

Jetrell Fo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Three days prior to inauguration but relevant and disconcerting.

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/01/19/never-seen-anything-gaping-holes-trumps-foreign-policy-team

Many aspects of President-elect Donald Trump’s transition have been described as disorganized (at best), but his administration’s approach to foreign policy “appears” particularly rudderless, raising concerns among domestic experts and international allies alike.

The defining part of the article is the quoted word above … “appears”, and that is an opinion, not fact. LOL

ok, i can respect your point that you should work to make things better (from your previous post, not this one). but what i don’t respect is your constant brushing aside of every piece of information as being opinion, and not fact. the opinion of the matter is, that almost all information that is out there is not fact. if you can’t deal with finding the shadow of the facts by sifting through and weighing opinions, then I don’t know… ? i don’t know.

I do wonder at what point I’m allowed to stop giving Trump another chance. 70 years hasn’t been enough. 2 years of campaigning hasn’t been enough. 2 weeks of a nonstop shitshow hasn’t been enough. Is 2 months more enough? 2 more years? Will I ever be allowed to question anything that Saint Trump has done or said?

dahmage, I’m relying on you to guide me on this matter. What ever your counsel, I will follow it.

as for me and my house? we have stopped giving trump a chance about 2 minutes into his campaign. I have never seen a reason to go back on that. As soon as i see reason from him, that will be a reason to start giving him a chance again.

I thank you for your guidance. I was willing to give Trump another chance starting right now, but you’ve convinced me to do otherwise.

don’t worry about it. My bill is in the mail.

Oh.

Time to set up a gofundme.

Like this one, maybe.

https://www.gofundme.com/buy-pat-toomeys-vote

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TV’s Frink said:

dahmage said:

TV’s Frink said:

dahmage said:

TV’s Frink said:

dahmage said:

Jetrell Fo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Three days prior to inauguration but relevant and disconcerting.

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/01/19/never-seen-anything-gaping-holes-trumps-foreign-policy-team

Many aspects of President-elect Donald Trump’s transition have been described as disorganized (at best), but his administration’s approach to foreign policy “appears” particularly rudderless, raising concerns among domestic experts and international allies alike.

The defining part of the article is the quoted word above … “appears”, and that is an opinion, not fact. LOL

ok, i can respect your point that you should work to make things better (from your previous post, not this one). but what i don’t respect is your constant brushing aside of every piece of information as being opinion, and not fact. the opinion of the matter is, that almost all information that is out there is not fact. if you can’t deal with finding the shadow of the facts by sifting through and weighing opinions, then I don’t know… ? i don’t know.

I do wonder at what point I’m allowed to stop giving Trump another chance. 70 years hasn’t been enough. 2 years of campaigning hasn’t been enough. 2 weeks of a nonstop shitshow hasn’t been enough. Is 2 months more enough? 2 more years? Will I ever be allowed to question anything that Saint Trump has done or said?

dahmage, I’m relying on you to guide me on this matter. What ever your counsel, I will follow it.

as for me and my house? we have stopped giving trump a chance about 2 minutes into his campaign. I have never seen a reason to go back on that. As soon as i see reason from him, that will be a reason to start giving him a chance again.

I thank you for your guidance. I was willing to give Trump another chance starting right now, but you’ve convinced me to do otherwise.

don’t worry about it. My bill is in the mail.

Oh.

Time to set up a gofundme.

Like this one, maybe.

https://www.gofundme.com/buy-pat-toomeys-vote

that is pretty hilarious, especially the ‘Update’ information. Side note: I tried to reach that guy (he is my senator after all) about recent events, but only was able to leave a voice mail. doubt he will listen. hopeful, against all logic, that he will listen.

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dahmage said:

TV’s Frink said:

dahmage said:

TV’s Frink said:

dahmage said:

TV’s Frink said:

dahmage said:

Jetrell Fo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Three days prior to inauguration but relevant and disconcerting.

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/01/19/never-seen-anything-gaping-holes-trumps-foreign-policy-team

Many aspects of President-elect Donald Trump’s transition have been described as disorganized (at best), but his administration’s approach to foreign policy “appears” particularly rudderless, raising concerns among domestic experts and international allies alike.

The defining part of the article is the quoted word above … “appears”, and that is an opinion, not fact. LOL

ok, i can respect your point that you should work to make things better (from your previous post, not this one). but what i don’t respect is your constant brushing aside of every piece of information as being opinion, and not fact. the opinion of the matter is, that almost all information that is out there is not fact. if you can’t deal with finding the shadow of the facts by sifting through and weighing opinions, then I don’t know… ? i don’t know.

I do wonder at what point I’m allowed to stop giving Trump another chance. 70 years hasn’t been enough. 2 years of campaigning hasn’t been enough. 2 weeks of a nonstop shitshow hasn’t been enough. Is 2 months more enough? 2 more years? Will I ever be allowed to question anything that Saint Trump has done or said?

dahmage, I’m relying on you to guide me on this matter. What ever your counsel, I will follow it.

as for me and my house? we have stopped giving trump a chance about 2 minutes into his campaign. I have never seen a reason to go back on that. As soon as i see reason from him, that will be a reason to start giving him a chance again.

I thank you for your guidance. I was willing to give Trump another chance starting right now, but you’ve convinced me to do otherwise.

don’t worry about it. My bill is in the mail.

Oh.

Time to set up a gofundme.

Like this one, maybe.

https://www.gofundme.com/buy-pat-toomeys-vote

that is pretty hilarious, especially the ‘Update’ information.

?

JEDIT: nvm, found it.

JEDIT2: He’s from Philly, and so is Warb. Maybe you’re all neighbors!

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Jetrell Fo said:

^^^From the article …

Trump told the folks at Axios, a freshly launched news site, that he prefers his intelligence briefings short and to the point.

“I like bullets or I like as little as possible,” he said in an interview published on the site. “I don’t need, you know, 200-page reports on something that can be handled on a page. That I can tell you.”

This does not imply what you are assuming.

dahmage said:

Jetrell Fo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Jesus Christ.

I can hear certain people already saying that you can’t believe these reports without having been there in person, but given that Trump has regularly refused to be bothered by intelligence briefings, and given that he both has zero experience in governing and has shown no interest in gaining experience, these reports are entirely believable.

If you were part of the administration and there, I’d buy this entirely believable thing, but since you’re not I don’t. You have nothing to show he is refusing intelligence briefings at this time and until you do I take this as only your opinion, nothing more.

how long will you hold a candle for Trump?

It has nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with fact vs. fiction.

yeah, right, sure, uhuh.

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TV’s Frink said:

JEDIT2: He’s from Philly, and so is Warb. Maybe you’re all neighbors!

I doubt it is one of my neighbors.

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Jetrell Fo said:

dahmage said:

Jetrell Fo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Three days prior to inauguration but relevant and disconcerting.

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/01/19/never-seen-anything-gaping-holes-trumps-foreign-policy-team

Many aspects of President-elect Donald Trump’s transition have been described as disorganized (at best), but his administration’s approach to foreign policy “appears” particularly rudderless, raising concerns among domestic experts and international allies alike.

The defining part of the article is the quoted word above … “appears”, and that is an opinion, not fact. LOL

ok, i can respect your point that you should work to make things better (from your previous post, not this one). but what i don’t respect is your constant brushing aside of every piece of information as being opinion, and not fact. the opinion of the matter is, that almost all information that is out there is not fact. if you can’t deal with finding the shadow of the facts by sifting through and weighing opinions, then I don’t know… ? i don’t know.

When the entire opinion is presented as fact, especially from someone that is supposed to be intelligent, I don’t know what to tell you. Opinions are like elbows, we all have them, it just doesn’t make them fact. I am totally okay with people not liking the guy, but we are supposed to be debating, not using our emotions to say that we are right and the rest of you are wrong. It’s wasted breath really.

And this is exactly the tripe I’m talking about.

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Hey wait a minute, who said I’m supposed to be intelligent?

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http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/02/02/john_mccain_gets_salty_with_trump_over_australia.html

On Thursday, John McCain, the Arizona senator and former Vietnam POW whom Trump famously belittled in 2015, coincidentally released a statement about his appreciation for a certain longtime U.S. ally:

“I called Australia’s Ambassador to the United States this morning to express my unwavering support for the U.S.-Australia alliance. I asked Ambassador Hockey to convey to the people of Australia that their American brothers and sisters value our historic alliance, honor the sacrifice of the Australians who have served and are serving by our side, and remain committed to the safer, freer, and better world that Australia does far more than its fair share to protect and promote.”

The statement doesn’t mention Trump by name, but it does include this line:

“Those of us who took part in the conflict remember well the service of more than 50,000 Australians in the Vietnam War, including more than 500 that gave their lives.”

You may recall that our commander in chief was able to avoid serving in Vietnam because he allegedly had bone spurs in his heels. He also later described the effort of avoiding sexually transmitted diseases as his own “personal Vietnam.”

John McCain may not be the America-uniting idealist that some people thought he was in 1999 and 2000, but he is too old to ever have to run for re-election again and he does think our president is a dumbass and that is, at the least, going to be entertaining.

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^I don’t see anything that says Trump is planning to or has signed off on that at this point. I would not like to see it reversed unless they have a better way of implementing it’s intention.

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Warbler said:

Jetrell Fo said:

dahmage said:

Jetrell Fo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Three days prior to inauguration but relevant and disconcerting.

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/01/19/never-seen-anything-gaping-holes-trumps-foreign-policy-team

Many aspects of President-elect Donald Trump’s transition have been described as disorganized (at best), but his administration’s approach to foreign policy “appears” particularly rudderless, raising concerns among domestic experts and international allies alike.

The defining part of the article is the quoted word above … “appears”, and that is an opinion, not fact. LOL

ok, i can respect your point that you should work to make things better (from your previous post, not this one). but what i don’t respect is your constant brushing aside of every piece of information as being opinion, and not fact. the opinion of the matter is, that almost all information that is out there is not fact. if you can’t deal with finding the shadow of the facts by sifting through and weighing opinions, then I don’t know… ? i don’t know.

When the entire opinion is presented as fact, especially from someone that is supposed to be intelligent, I don’t know what to tell you. Opinions are like elbows, we all have them, it just doesn’t make them fact. I am totally okay with people not liking the guy, but we are supposed to be debating, not using our emotions to say that we are right and the rest of you are wrong. It’s wasted breath really.

And this is exactly the tripe I’m talking about.

And that is your opinion which you have a right to, as do I, and mine was opinion as well. You need to try harder because copying people just to try and be funny or something really isn’t your forte.

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Jetrell Fo said:

dahmage said:

Jetrell Fo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Three days prior to inauguration but relevant and disconcerting.

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/01/19/never-seen-anything-gaping-holes-trumps-foreign-policy-team

Many aspects of President-elect Donald Trump’s transition have been described as disorganized (at best), but his administration’s approach to foreign policy “appears” particularly rudderless, raising concerns among domestic experts and international allies alike.

The defining part of the article is the quoted word above … “appears”, and that is an opinion, not fact. LOL

ok, i can respect your point that you should work to make things better (from your previous post, not this one). but what i don’t respect is your constant brushing aside of every piece of information as being opinion, and not fact. the opinion of the matter is, that almost all information that is out there is not fact. if you can’t deal with finding the shadow of the facts by sifting through and weighing opinions, then I don’t know… ? i don’t know.

When the entire opinion is presented as fact, especially from someone that is supposed to be intelligent, I don’t know what to tell you. Opinions are like elbows, we all have them, it just doesn’t make them fact. I am totally okay with people not liking the guy, but we are supposed to be debating, not using our emotions to say that we are right and the rest of you are wrong. It’s wasted breath really.

You can’t just disregard anything that has a whiff of an opinion though. Read the sentence with “appears” again. It’s not the writer’s opinion that it appears that way, it’s the opinion of “domestic experts and international allies alike.” When people like that have an opinion on a matter that they know better than us, it is wise to listen and not simply disregard what they’re saying.

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TV’s Frink said:

https://theintercept.com/2017/02/02/press-secretary-sean-spicer-falsely-accuses-iran-of-attacking-u-s-navy-vessel-an-act-of-war/

JEDIT: Oh god, it looks like more misinformation taken from Fox News. This is why Alex Jones is infinitely more dangerous than that other dude. Trump listens to Alex Jones.

Good point on Trump listening to him. I hadn’t really considered that, but I stand by Stefan Molyneux being a much more despicable and dangerous ideologue.

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DominicCobb said:

Jetrell Fo said:

dahmage said:

Jetrell Fo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Three days prior to inauguration but relevant and disconcerting.

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/01/19/never-seen-anything-gaping-holes-trumps-foreign-policy-team

Many aspects of President-elect Donald Trump’s transition have been described as disorganized (at best), but his administration’s approach to foreign policy “appears” particularly rudderless, raising concerns among domestic experts and international allies alike.

The defining part of the article is the quoted word above … “appears”, and that is an opinion, not fact. LOL

ok, i can respect your point that you should work to make things better (from your previous post, not this one). but what i don’t respect is your constant brushing aside of every piece of information as being opinion, and not fact. the opinion of the matter is, that almost all information that is out there is not fact. if you can’t deal with finding the shadow of the facts by sifting through and weighing opinions, then I don’t know… ? i don’t know.

When the entire opinion is presented as fact, especially from someone that is supposed to be intelligent, I don’t know what to tell you. Opinions are like elbows, we all have them, it just doesn’t make them fact. I am totally okay with people not liking the guy, but we are supposed to be debating, not using our emotions to say that we are right and the rest of you are wrong. It’s wasted breath really.

You can’t just disregard anything that has a whiff of an opinion though. Read the sentence with “appears” again. It’s not the writer’s opinion that it appears that way, it’s the opinion of “domestic experts and international allies alike.” When people like that have an opinion on a matter that they know better than us, it is wise to listen and not simply disregard what they’re saying.

Maybe so but we have elbows just like them so all of our opinions are of equal value, regardless of how much information we possess.

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Jetrell Fo said:

Warbler said:

Jetrell Fo said:

dahmage said:

Jetrell Fo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Three days prior to inauguration but relevant and disconcerting.

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/01/19/never-seen-anything-gaping-holes-trumps-foreign-policy-team

Many aspects of President-elect Donald Trump’s transition have been described as disorganized (at best), but his administration’s approach to foreign policy “appears” particularly rudderless, raising concerns among domestic experts and international allies alike.

The defining part of the article is the quoted word above … “appears”, and that is an opinion, not fact. LOL

ok, i can respect your point that you should work to make things better (from your previous post, not this one). but what i don’t respect is your constant brushing aside of every piece of information as being opinion, and not fact. the opinion of the matter is, that almost all information that is out there is not fact. if you can’t deal with finding the shadow of the facts by sifting through and weighing opinions, then I don’t know… ? i don’t know.

When the entire opinion is presented as fact, especially from someone that is supposed to be intelligent, I don’t know what to tell you. Opinions are like elbows, we all have them, it just doesn’t make them fact. I am totally okay with people not liking the guy, but we are supposed to be debating, not using our emotions to say that we are right and the rest of you are wrong. It’s wasted breath really.

And this is exactly the tripe I’m talking about.

And that is your opinion which you have a right to, as do I, and mine was opinion as well. You need to try harder because copying people just to try and be funny or something really isn’t your forte.

^ backdoor insult?