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I don’t know, contrary to what elected officials would have you believe there really aren’t many terrorist attacks in the United States, and probably even less in Canada.
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I don’t know, contrary to what elected officials would have you believe there really aren’t many terrorist attacks in the United States, and probably even less in Canada.
Exactly.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/us/politics/attorney-general-civil-rights-refugee.html
Acting Attorney General Sally Q. Yates, a holdover from the Obama administration, ordered the Justice Department on Monday not to defend President Trump’s executive order on immigration in court.
“I am responsible for ensuring that the positions we take in court remain consistent with this institution’s solemn obligation to always seek justice and stand for what is right,” Ms. Yates wrote in a letter to Justice Department lawyers. “At present, I am not convinced that the defense of the executive order is consistent with these responsibilities nor am I convinced that the executive order is lawful.”
The decision is largely symbolic — Mr. Trump’s nominee to be attorney general, Jeff Sessions, is likely to be confirmed soon — but it highlights the deep divide at the Justice Department and elsewhere in the government over Mr. Trump’s order.
Here’s your road to moving to the US as a refugee.
President Trump has suspended entry of all refugees to the United States for 120 days, and he has barred Syrian refugees indefinitely. The current screening process for all refugees involves many layers of security checks before entry into the country, and Syrians were subject to an additional layer of checks. Sometimes, the process, shown below, takes up to two years.
Registration with the United Nations.
Interview with the United Nations.
Refugee status granted by the United Nations.
Referral for resettlement in the United States.
The United Nations decides if the person fits the definition of a refugee and whether to refer the person to the United States or to another country for resettlement. Only the most vulnerable are referred, accounting for less than than 1 percent of refugees worldwide. Some people spend years waiting in refugee camps.
Interview with State Department contractors.
First background check.
Higher-level background check for some.
Another background check.
The refugee’s name is run through law enforcement and intelligence databases for terrorist or criminal history. Some go through a higher-level clearance before they can continue. A third background check was introduced in 2008 for Iraqis but has since been expanded to all refugees ages 14 to 65.
First fingerprint screening; photo taken.
Second fingerprint screening.
Third fingerprint screening.
The refugee’s fingerprints are screened against F.B.I. and Homeland Security databases, which contain watch list information and past immigration encounters, including if the refugee previously applied for a visa at a United States embassy. Fingerprints are also checked against those collected by the Defense Department during operations in Iraq.
Case reviewed at United States immigration headquarters.
Some cases referred for additional review.
Syrian applicants must undergo these two additional steps. Each is reviewed by a United States Citizenship and Immigration Services refugee specialist. Cases with “national security indicators” are given to the Homeland Security Department’s fraud detection unit.
- Extensive, in-person interview with Homeland Security officer.
Most of the interviews with Syrians have been done in Jordan and Turkey.
Homeland Security approval is required.
Screening for contagious diseases.
Cultural orientation class.
Matched with an American resettlement agency.
Multi-agency security check before leaving for the United States.
Because of the long amount of time between the initial screening and departure, officials conduct a final check before the refugee leaves for the United States.
- Final security check at an American airport.
If a two-year vetting process (if you’re lucky enough to get that far) isn’t enough vetting, I dunno what is. It’s all fear-mongering scare tactics and propaganda to keep Americans afraid and pliable to the loss of more and more freedoms and rights. The current process has kept America safe for years, and as far as I’m concerned there is no need to expand it at this time.
In a country where you’re more likely to die when your bookshelf falls on you than to a terrorist all these bans serve, whether they’re based on religion or nationality or whatever is to drive wedges between people rather than increase understanding among them.
How can ISIS say Americans hate Muslims when we bring in thousands of Muslims a year for education and employment and a chance at a free and secure life in the first world? But with these bans, ISIS recruiters worldwide are laughing. The Trump administration has played right into the hands of terrorists. If you want a little hyperbole, he may have become one of their greatest recruiters.
Much like my stance on firearms, I would rather take my chances in a free world where we allow people of all races, nationalities, creeds, and religions into our country to make it the best and strongest nation on earth than foster distrust, paranoia, fear, racism, and violence and make my country and the world a scarier, more violent place.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VAWFGPXgEs
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Trump is exactly the kind of disaster the Democrats need to win big in future years. Conservatism will go very out of fashion in the next four years. This is why I would have rather had Hillary win, no matter her broken moral compass or my disagreement with her political views. I see a midterm election transition in both houses back to the Democrats, a loss of the presidency to the Democrats in four years, and a huge slide to the Left in the nation’s policies over the next several years. How can rank and file Republicans stand for this man, who clearly is not a conservative, whose bigotry stands exactly in contrast to freedom, both in the policies he is initiating and in the trends he is setting.
Executive orders were never written into the Constitution but were instead inferred by the president’s executive function and the necessity of clarifying that which is not specified by Congressional legislation. I feel it should be used sparingly and is generally overstepping those limits defined by the Constitution. I was a critic of Obama using executive orders in the manner he did, which is clearly a very dictatorial act. But Trump has put Obama to shame in such a short time. His authoritarian leadership is completely out of bounds, and I cannot sanction it, even when I agree with the policy change.
Let me put it this way: virtually everyone who knows me on this site knows that I am very opposed to elective abortions in most cases. I abhor them. They represent a severe dysfunction of our society’s morals, in my opinion. It breaks my heart to know that so many children are sent to premature deaths simply for being unwanted. And if Trump were to write an executive order that aligned abortion laws exactly with my perspective, I would condemn him for it. Beyond the good of those lives that would be spared would be the wellbeing of all Americans. Redefining a president’s authority in this way is extremely dangerous to the most powerful democracy in the world, and endangers everyone’s liberties and lives. I don’t think I’m being hyperbolic when I say that even if Trump does no serious harm in the long-term now, the precedents he is setting, if not checked, will allow for further violations by future administrations that could completely destabilize our precious nation. I pray that the judicial branch will show they have some gonads and trump Trump, and/or the Republicans will show some spine and help impeach the loser.
Donald Trump, regardless of your affiliation or your agreement with those things he aspires to accomplish, is a disaster for our nation and for the Conservative cause, and I will never support the man. At best, he will destroy the perception of Conservatism and marginalize the causes I believe in. At worst, he will have grown the power of the executive branch to dangerous levels and alter the nature of the U.S. presidency for years.
You’re a good dude, _ender. I wish your Conservative brethren were willing to put country over party as well.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/us/politics/attorney-general-civil-rights-refugee.html
Acting Attorney General Sally Q. Yates, a holdover from the Obama administration, ordered the Justice Department on Monday not to defend President Trump’s executive order on immigration in court.
“I am responsible for ensuring that the positions we take in court remain consistent with this institution’s solemn obligation to always seek justice and stand for what is right,” Ms. Yates wrote in a letter to Justice Department lawyers. “At present, I am not convinced that the defense of the executive order is consistent with these responsibilities nor am I convinced that the executive order is lawful.”
The decision is largely symbolic — Mr. Trump’s nominee to be attorney general, Jeff Sessions, is likely to be confirmed soon — but it highlights the deep divide at the Justice Department and elsewhere in the government over Mr. Trump’s order.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/us/politics/trump-immigration-ban-memo.html
President Trump fired his acting attorney general on Monday after she defiantly refused to defend his immigration executive order, accusing the Democratic holdover of trying to obstruct his agenda for political reasons.
Taking action in an escalating crisis for his 10-day-old administration, Mr. Trump declared that Sally Q. Yates had “betrayed” the administration, the White House said in a statement.
What a fucking moron.
You’re a good dude, _ender. I wish your Conservative brethren were willing to put country over party as well.
Thanks. I gotta say, it’s like the conservatives here and all those who support Trump fail to realize that there will be another presidential election in four years. If a Democrat gets elected (and thanks to Trump, I’d bet money that one will), he/she will now have a precedent of a powerful executive branch. All of Trump’s policies, whether good or bad, can be rolled back with the stroke of a pen. Even more liberal policies will go into effect, and this time, with no Congressional approval. Even if the Republicans do control the legislature, a Democrat president would have incredible and dangerous power. And all the conservatives who supported Trump’s moves would be up in arms over such outrageous overstepping of power. Only, they will have been the enablers of such behavior, and we’ll be stuck with future presidents with
If Trump loses the NASCAR vote, he’s done.
http://blackflag.jalopnik.com/even-dale-goddamn-earnhardt-jr-opposes-the-muslim-ban-1791789271
http://www.snopes.com/2017/01/30/starbucks-to-hire-10000-refugees/
You’re a good dude, _ender. I wish your Conservative brethren were willing to put country over party as well.
Thanks. I gotta say, it’s like the conservatives here and all those who support Trump fail to realize that there will be another presidential election in four years. If a Democrat gets elected (and thanks to Trump, I’d bet money that one will), he/she will now have a precedent of a powerful executive branch. All of Trump’s policies, whether good or bad, can be rolled back with the stroke of a pen. Even more liberal policies will go into effect, and this time, with no Congressional approval. Even if the Republicans do control the legislature, a Democrat president would have incredible and dangerous power. And all the conservatives who supported Trump’s moves would be up in arms over such outrageous overstepping of power. Only, they will have been the enablers of such behavior, and we’ll be stuck with future presidents with
Who would have thought Bannon would be Anakin in this scenario?
Where were you in '77?
Actually, I’m pretty sure Bannon is Palps and Trump is Anakin.
Not sure I even want to know who Jar Jar is. 😉
Where were you in '77?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/us/politics/attorney-general-civil-rights-refugee.html
Acting Attorney General Sally Q. Yates, a holdover from the Obama administration, ordered the Justice Department on Monday not to defend President Trump’s executive order on immigration in court.
“I am responsible for ensuring that the positions we take in court remain consistent with this institution’s solemn obligation to always seek justice and stand for what is right,” Ms. Yates wrote in a letter to Justice Department lawyers. “At present, I am not convinced that the defense of the executive order is consistent with these responsibilities nor am I convinced that the executive order is lawful.”
The decision is largely symbolic — Mr. Trump’s nominee to be attorney general, Jeff Sessions, is likely to be confirmed soon — but it highlights the deep divide at the Justice Department and elsewhere in the government over Mr. Trump’s order.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/us/politics/trump-immigration-ban-memo.html
President Trump fired his acting attorney general on Monday after she defiantly refused to defend his immigration executive order, accusing the Democratic holdover of trying to obstruct his agenda for political reasons.
Taking action in an escalating crisis for his 10-day-old administration, Mr. Trump declared that Sally Q. Yates had “betrayed” the administration, the White House said in a statement.
What a fucking moron.
The memo reads like something Kim Jung Un would put out.
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Trump is exactly the kind of disaster the Democrats need to win big in future years. Conservatism will go very out of fashion in the next four years. This is why I would have rather had Hillary win, no matter her broken moral compass or my disagreement with her political views. I see a midterm election transition in both houses back to the Democrats, a loss of the presidency to the Democrats in four years, and a huge slide to the Left in the nation’s policies over the next several years. How can rank and file Republicans stand for this man, who clearly is not a conservative, whose bigotry stands exactly in contrast to freedom, both in the policies he is initiating and in the trends he is setting.
Executive orders were never written into the Constitution but were instead inferred by the president’s executive function and the necessity of clarifying that which is not specified by Congressional legislation. I feel it should be used sparingly and is generally overstepping those limits defined by the Constitution. I was a critic of Obama using executive orders in the manner he did, which is clearly a very dictatorial act. But Trump has put Obama to shame in such a short time. His authoritarian leadership is completely out of bounds, and I cannot sanction it, even when I agree with the policy change.
Let me put it this way: virtually everyone who knows me on this site knows that I am very opposed to elective abortions in most cases. I abhor them. They represent a severe dysfunction of our society’s morals, in my opinion. It breaks my heart to know that so many children are sent to premature deaths simply for being unwanted. And if Trump were to write an executive order that aligned abortion laws exactly with my perspective, I would condemn him for it. Beyond the good of those lives that would be spared would be the wellbeing of all Americans. Redefining a president’s authority in this way is extremely dangerous to the most powerful democracy in the world, and endangers everyone’s liberties and lives. I don’t think I’m being hyperbolic when I say that even if Trump does no serious harm in the long-term now, the precedents he is setting, if not checked, will allow for further violations by future administrations that could completely destabilize our precious nation. I pray that the judicial branch will show they have some gonads and trump Trump, and/or the Republicans will show some spine and help impeach the loser.
Donald Trump, regardless of your affiliation or your agreement with those things he aspires to accomplish, is a disaster for our nation and for the Conservative cause, and I will never support the man. At best, he will destroy the perception of Conservatism and marginalize the causes I believe in. At worst, he will have grown the power of the executive branch to dangerous levels and alter the nature of the U.S. presidency for years.
Great post. I agree with Frink.
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Trump is exactly the kind of disaster the Democrats need to win big in future years. Conservatism will go very out of fashion in the next four years. This is why I would have rather had Hillary win, no matter her broken moral compass or my disagreement with her political views. I see a midterm election transition in both houses back to the Democrats, a loss of the presidency to the Democrats in four years, and a huge slide to the Left in the nation’s policies over the next several years. How can rank and file Republicans stand for this man, who clearly is not a conservative, whose bigotry stands exactly in contrast to freedom, both in the policies he is initiating and in the trends he is setting.
Executive orders were never written into the Constitution but were instead inferred by the president’s executive function and the necessity of clarifying that which is not specified by Congressional legislation. I feel it should be used sparingly and is generally overstepping those limits defined by the Constitution. I was a critic of Obama using executive orders in the manner he did, which is clearly a very dictatorial act. But Trump has put Obama to shame in such a short time. His authoritarian leadership is completely out of bounds, and I cannot sanction it, even when I agree with the policy change.
Let me put it this way: virtually everyone who knows me on this site knows that I am very opposed to elective abortions in most cases. I abhor them. They represent a severe dysfunction of our society’s morals, in my opinion. It breaks my heart to know that so many children are sent to premature deaths simply for being unwanted. And if Trump were to write an executive order that aligned abortion laws exactly with my perspective, I would condemn him for it. Beyond the good of those lives that would be spared would be the wellbeing of all Americans. Redefining a president’s authority in this way is extremely dangerous to the most powerful democracy in the world, and endangers everyone’s liberties and lives. I don’t think I’m being hyperbolic when I say that even if Trump does no serious harm in the long-term now, the precedents he is setting, if not checked, will allow for further violations by future administrations that could completely destabilize our precious nation. I pray that the judicial branch will show they have some gonads and trump Trump, and/or the Republicans will show some spine and help impeach the loser.
Donald Trump, regardless of your affiliation or your agreement with those things he aspires to accomplish, is a disaster for our nation and for the Conservative cause, and I will never support the man. At best, he will destroy the perception of Conservatism and marginalize the causes I believe in. At worst, he will have grown the power of the executive branch to dangerous levels and alter the nature of the U.S. presidency for years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxAKFlpdcfc
For once some sanity from someone on the right.
_ender has been very rational about Trump from the beginning, IIRC.
Actually, I’m pretty sure Bannon is Palps and Trump is Anakin.
No, Trump is most definitely Palps.
Actually, I’m pretty sure Bannon is Palps and Trump is Anakin.
No, Trump is most definitely Palps.
No, Bannon is the one pulling the strings and using Trump.
Not sure I even want to know who Jar Jar is. 😉
Actually, I’m pretty sure Bannon is Palps and Trump is Anakin.
No, Trump is most definitely Palps.
No, Bannon is the one pulling the strings and using Trump.
I don’t think anyone pulls Trump’s strings but Trump.
_ender has been very rational about Trump from the beginning, IIRC.
Yes, I believe that is so.
All this signing of executive orders reminds me of this: