What to do with Mentally Ill People?

just thought this might be an interesting subject for debate.

I am currently having issues with a mentally ill person one that is aggressive. He has cracked my plasterboard ceiling from stomping his foot full force on his floor my ceiling,

I have to be upset with verbal abuse and aggression ongoing and not retaliate because then I would probably be held as knowingly and consciously being like that whilst the mentally ill person get’s let off for being like a complete asshole and not only causing damage to where I live but I have to put up with someone that sounds like they want to kill me!!!

It’s a complicated issue and It seems in the UK the stance has been taken to let mentally ill people live among if you like people who are not mentally ill as it is “Better for them” is it better for the community as a whole though?

Should mentally ill people have a more soft integration with the community by and large?

Or should people accept that mentally ill people can get away with more than they can because they are mentally ill and can not play by the same rules?

This is not a political correctness debate but people will make excuses for people having mental issues and is it fair that people who are classified as mentally ill can get away with more than someone who is not?

I am not against or trying to single out people with mental illness but where do you draw the line and particularly if someone is aggressive?

Is a mentally ill person who is just weird more acceptable than an aggressive person with mental illness I would think the answer to that is yes all round and if a weird mentally ill person is just weird very little issues with that it is not causing any strife…

But if a mentally ill person is aggressive I think personally it should be contained away from the community or society if and where possible and not let them cause problems for others or cause problems for themselves…

Have anyone here any thoughts about the mentally ill in the community and any stories to tell?

Mental illness is illness.

Anyone can become ill at any time and if an illness were to make you a risk to the life and limb of someone else you may need to be isolated from other people while receiving remedial care (which is something you can’t just leave to personal insurance to fund).
But at all times you treat the person with the illness with all the care and respect you would hope to expect if you or your child or parent was ill.

Health is a spectrum we all sit on.
Some of us are overweight, some of us have heart problems or breathing problems, some of us have cancer or infections. Some of us have poor mental health or one of a variety of mental illnesses or conditions.

So called ‘Anti-Political Correctness’ is being used by some as an excuse to be vile, rude and intolerant often to the most vulnerable people.
There is a history of this sort of thing. https://www.mentalhealth.org.uk/blog/holocaust-memorial-day-remembering-psychiatric-patients-who-were-victims-nazi-persecution

imperialscum said:

It is very simple really. All citizens are equal before the law. If you break the law you should be sanctioned. Mental health should not give one any privileges when it comes to the law. It should just determine whether you will be dealt by the criminal justice system or mental institution.

If you have a mental illness and do something out of character it shouldn’t be treated the same way as if someone just chose to do something.
Sometimes institutions are needed, sometimes not. It’s an act of injustice to treat the unwell in the same way as the well.

If you scream at the top of your voice in a Church for fun it’s an offensive and probably breaks some kind of civil law.

If you make the same disruption because of a gallstone it’s not your fault. You need medical attention and probably a stay in hospital.

If you make the same disruption because of schizophrenia it’s not your fault. You may need medical attention and possibly a stay in hospital.

The brain is an organ of the body. The mind is an emergent property of the body.
An unwell mind or damaged brain is no different from an unwell gall bladder or a broken arm.

Bingowings said:

So called ‘Anti-Political Correctness’ is being used by some as an excuse to be vile, rude and intolerant often to the most vulnerable people.

Sadly, there is a history here of some doing this as well, at it’s never a positive.

I don’t think mentally ill people are getting the proper care and attention they need.

This guy who I have had problems with for over a year has really been left to neglect. Although he is something like 30 odd years old his parents I don’t think really want to keep having to bring him up at this age. They are almost in denial of his condition it would seem.

I suppose that is the other problem Parents don’t want to be full on parents for their whole lives.

I think it really is a serious issue in this day and age and we have had a spate of Mentally ill people doing things recently.

Take the depressed airline pilot that took the whole plane down to kill himself killing all the innocent passengers.

That Finnish bloke who got a sniper rifle shot loads of people

Mentally ill people can be very competent humans beings but if either it’s not classified at the right moment or it’s not treated and sick and aggressive ideas take hold really bad things can happen.

My upset and being treated nastily are not on the scale of the news headlines mental illness horror.

But it’s a really serious issue and it does really need to have a lot more resources chucked at it.

It’s difficult to tackle but it really does need to be tackled much better than it currently is. I don’t know how but it’s not good enough in my book.

^ Yeah it’s legacy nobody wants the burden of.

But then Mental illness erupts in society and causes massive upset and people then use “mental illenss” as a scape goat to try and justify why something happened.

Rather than nobody identified any particular mentally ill person was nearing a danger point where they would cause others or themselves harm.

It’s pretty sick that this even needs to be discussed.

I had a friend who hung himself from a tree in the park who was schizophrenic. This is just as bad that this sort of self harm behavior is not identified before it happens also.

I don’t think it’s good enough the care for the mentally ill.

Give them tablets tell them to take them, they stop taking them shit happens.