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NeverarGreat
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What do you HATE about the EU?
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18-Jan-2017, 3:46 AM

MagicStingRay said:

NeverarGreat said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

If ever I have misgivings of the EU’s de-canonization (which I don’t), all I need do is remind myself that this existed

and I’m happy again that the EUphiles’ favourite tin god was torn down and hammered into dust.

I see images like that and wonder how they are in the same universe as that quaint 70’s movie. You know, the one featuring a farmboy, a down-on-his-luck hot rod driver and his giant doglike sidekick, and a sassy Mexican Revolution styled princess.

It must have to do with the cartoonification and superheroication of Star Wars.

Basically put to words what I have always thought. I think that’s what the new movies have done well with doing so far, making designs that feel like they exist in the same universe as Luke Skywalker, Darth Vader, Han Solo, Yoda, and more, while not being too derivative too, save for a few things here and there.

Compare the utter ridiculousness of these Darth Maul on meth designs to something as simple, clean, and elegant as Kylo Ren. Honestly, I like Darth Maul but his design was still pretty straightforward and not too cluttered. He had the simple black robes, scary tatooed face and was good to go. So many EU designs, for villains especially, bordered on the ridiculous.

Darth Kryat (spelling?), Darth Bane (armor wise), the rest of the One Sith and more just all reeked of cluttered nonsense. Even the rest tended to be uninspired… I mean Darth Plagius’ master was a cantina Bith fused with helmetless Vader. Even Plagius himself was one of those Banking Clan aliens from the prequels with a respirator.

Some villains like Thrawn and Darth Revan had simple and memorable designs but also unique characterizations and stories to boot, so it’s no wonder there was and is so much clamor to bring them back.

I think a lot of what makes Kylo Ren stand out from the standard red-lightsabered rogue’s gallery of the EU is that he exists in a world of medieval Christian imagery and iconography, from the rough burlap of his cloak to his crucifix lightsaber. He worships a holy relic, travels in a starship with a cross on its bow, and his battlefields include something resembling a crusader encampment, an English castle and grounds, and a Germanic forest. If the locations weren’t clear enough, the final location of the film is literally a Christian monastery. His personality and visage under the mask is reminiscent of a Spanish Inquisitor, and he undergoes emotional (and perhaps physical) torture as a way of strengthening his twisted faith.

While this is rich iconography for TFA to explore, I think one of the reasons it doesn’t resonate as well as the originals is because of this singular European influence. Star Wars has always been projected through a lens of American values, even if it draws from a wide variety of other cultures. Since the primary iconography is now European, it feels removed from the American zietgiest. I would be curious if it resonates more with European audiences, but I would doubt it.