Yes that’s right, it was censored in Germany on the original release. I guess that proves that Poita’s print really is in German! For anyone interested, here’s a short clip showing the censored cut from the 1984 German CBS Fox VHS: https://mega.nz/#!PxJGQBBI!dhpfWgr2GE_73jj5KY7OOe2AUK6DpMVNaKYk_Scr3ZA
[ Scanning stuff since 2015 ]
Thanks for that! Very interesting…a pretty poor edit too as they the musical cue gets cut off…
Yes that’s right, it was censored in Germany on the original release. I guess that proves that Poita’s print really is in German! For anyone interested, here’s a short clip showing the censored cut from the 1984 German CBS Fox VHS: https://mega.nz/#!PxJGQBBI!dhpfWgr2GE_73jj5KY7OOe2AUK6DpMVNaKYk_Scr3ZA
esb-DE-Reel6.mov
Between 127|128 insert GOUT 150342-367
Between 498|499 insert GOUT 150739-744
Between 754|755 insert GOUT 151001-005
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Between 7737|7738 insert GOUT 158004.
Between 22584|22585 insert GOUT 172852-854
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Those are NTSC GOUT, not PAL; for previous reels it doesn’t matter.
Sync’ed through the final iris wipe.
Rolling credits are different than GOUT.
Missing “Prints by Deluxe”, “Novelization by Ballantine Books” for example
However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
-Moth3r
Yes that’s right, it was censored in Germany on the original release. I guess that proves that Poita’s print really is in German! For anyone interested, here’s a short clip showing the censored cut from the 1984 German CBS Fox VHS: https://mega.nz/#!PxJGQBBI!dhpfWgr2GE_73jj5KY7OOe2AUK6DpMVNaKYk_Scr3ZA
Ha! The way that it quick-cuts to that closeup of Lando and Boba Fett looking at each other almost creates a comical effect.
All you need is soft elevator music playing outside the torture room.
The violence of the cut deserve the FSK-18
German Reel3 for missing frame hunting for everyone playing along at home.
Please ignore the weird texture pulsing at the start and in some scenes. I had a layer turned on in the restoration software that was causing some weirdness.
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I had a few emails saying how lucky it was that Reel3 is so clean.
The timecoded version I posted is the result of messing around with cleanup techniques for the past two weeks.
The original isn’t vaguely clean, this is how the end of the reel looks, with the colour balance done to reduce the red, the damaged frame is on the right.
This is a map of the damage a few frames later, the red parts are the pixels that required repairing.
Here are a few frames of playback (12MB) , just looking at the damage overlay (shot from my phone pointing at the screen, sorry for the quality)
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Good lord, that’s some incredible before and after comparison. You continue to impress, Poita.
Cool video poita!
dereel3-720-tc.mov
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Cue dots aren’t where I expected them.
They’re off by some few frames… in both directions!
However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
-Moth3r
Say, Poita,
Are you aware that in the German Print/Reel 3 scan, there’s some cropping?
Here is one frame from the scan of the German print.
And here is the same frame from the UK print.
In the area between the 2 yellow lines is the picture information as it appears in the scan of the German print. The areas above the upper yellow line and below the bottom yellow line are what are missing in the German print scan.
Was this a glitch in the scanning device?
Was this a glitch in the scanning device?
He has posted the full frame scans before, including the sprockets, etc. Presumably it’s just how the preview is rendered. Though it would be interesting (unfortunate) if that’s the full image.
Looks like there’s cropping on the edges, too. Given this was posted for missing frame detection, I’d assume this was (hopefully) just a quick crop, not indicative of the entire image.
poita said it was pre-scans to just look for damage/missing frames etc., so let’s hope the crop is not on the actual reel.
Was this a glitch in the scanning device?
He has posted the full frame scans before, including the sprockets, etc. Presumably it’s just how the preview is rendered. Though it would be interesting (unfortunate) if that’s the full image.
Really? Is it still available somewhere? Would love to see those.
poita said it was pre-scans to just look for damage/missing frames etc., so let’s hope the crop is not on the actual reel.
Was this a glitch in the scanning device?
He has posted the full frame scans before, including the sprockets, etc. Presumably it’s just how the preview is rendered. Though it would be interesting (unfortunate) if that’s the full image.
Really? Is it still available somewhere? Would love to see those.
Not necessarily of this reel, but they’ve been posted in this thread before. He tends to run out of storage space, so I don’t know if it’s still live.
Someone PM’ed him to tell him that he was lying and his videos were GOUT upscales with dirt/damage effects added. So he humored the person. Posted the sample for all to see, and we had a laugh at the fool (poita is a gentleman and didn’t disclose his username).
I cropped the German reel to the projection matte, there is a bit more at the top, bottom and sides, the scans exceed the film width/height in all directions (i.e. each frame has a bit of the previous and next frame in shot) so everything on the frame is scanned.
As mentioned, these are for missing frame detection, nothing more. I really appreciate the help in finding the missing frames, it makes the restoration effort easier.
However, the full frame is never seen in the cinema, which is why you don’t notice the strip at the bottom of each scene change splice in the cinema, or the groaty edges on the left and right sides. Obviously for the archival scan I keep the full frames, sprockets and soundtrack area, but for the restored ‘cinema’ version it will be cropped to the projection mask used during projection, as that is what one is meant to see.
I can post another section with the complete soundtrack area etc. if anyone is interested.
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This is what a full frame scan looks like.
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That is good to know.
I didn’t mean to start a panic amongst the community regarding my calling out on the cropping 😐
I can post another section with the complete soundtrack area etc. if anyone is interested.
Of course that would be very nice to see (for those are not used to manipulate 35mm reels), unless this take you too much time to do.
This is what a full frame scan looks like.
Very nice, thank you 😃
We have had a bit of a disaster, we have substantial damage to the house and no power, a mini cyclone ripped through the town.
I don’t know yet what was lost, but the family are all safe.
You can see details of the storm here including a walk around the town:
http://www.mudgeeguardian.com.au/story/4412494/massive-storm-rips-through-mudgee-photos-video/?cs=1233
There is still no power, and the backup power to the cell towers will be out soon, so I will be offline for a while.
I will update when I know more.
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Hope your house is not too damaged. Stay safe.
I am glad to hear your family is well, and I hope your home gets repaired quickly. I don’t know how things down there compare, but homeowners insurance can be a mixed bag to deal with here in the US (from what I hear).
Sending warm and safe thoughts to all in Mudgee.
Goodness, that’s devastating. Stay safe and hope your family can get home soon.
That’s awful to hear, Poita. Hope your friends and neighbors are all okay.
Dang Poita, you can’t catch a break. Stay safe.