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All responses I expected. I won’t waste time on most of it but you should do some research on how many people have trouble getting their required ID, who it affects (hint: the elderly, the poor, minorities, etc.), and how much more common it is than the extraordinarily rare cases of in-person voter fraud.

Oh, and what’s your defense for the Supreme Court thing?

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Tyrphanax said:

ferris209 said:

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This is why nothing gets done in this country. It’s a zero-sum game. No compromise, no meeting in the middle, no concession, no “hrm, maybe I’m wrong about this one”. Just “I’m right and you’re not only wrong but also stupid and irredeemable.”

It’s a race to the bottom and we all lose.

I love how it’s “not compromising” when I don’t abandon my principles, but it’s just being committed when Dems refuse to give two inches on any of theirs. Why are only Conservatives expected to concede and liberals are not?

For the record my post wasn’t directed towards any one person, here or anywhere. But thanks for makin’ the case for me man.

Haha, yep.

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TV’s Frink said:

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  1. I don’t “hate” Obama as much as I loath him both as a person and as a President.

Lol, what is this even supposed to mean? I’d hate to hear about someone you actually hate.

I don’t even get it. If you hate him in every way that matters, how can you say you don’t hate him?

And how can you hate him as a person? When has he ever proven himself to be less than a decent guy? I hated Bush as a president but I’d never say I hate him as a person.

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Exactly right.

It’s gonna be a fun scandal ride with Trump after the relative boringness of Obama.

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ferris209 said:

Warbler said:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk8DDFE8v3I

DEAR LIBERAL FRIENDS: We need to talk about President Trump…

The the lady in that video: go bleep yourself.

I have to wonder whether she thought W. Bush was a war monger. I doubt it. and where it is the concern about blowback when comes to the Iraq invasion and waterboarding(which Trump and W. Bush support).

You often accuse me of having blind hate for Obama, you have a blind hate for Bush.

  1. You have a blind love for you Bush and any Republican President.

  2. I don’t hate Bush anywhere near as much as you seem to hate Obama.

  1. No, I don’t. I hated a lot of Bush’s policies, his domestic policies especially, but I do believe he was far better on foreign affairs than Obama.

    Let me try to set you straight on this, I am not an in the bag dyed in the wool Republican,

oh yeah, when was the last Presidential race where you didn’t vote for the Republican?

Not one person in the current Democrat party that I can think of could come close to even courting my beliefs enough to gain my vote, it’s not me it’s them.

I didn’t ask when the last time you voted Democrat was, I asked when was the last time you didn’t vote Republican. There independents and third parties and write-ins. Have you ever considered voting any of those ways or do you just automatically flip the Republican switch?

first you say you say the Republican party is the party that most closely conforms to your general philosophy, but then you say you hate the party.

If you a conservative instead of a Republican, vote libertarian or some conservative third party instead of always Republican.

Not one person in the current Democrat party that I can think of could come close to even courting my beliefs enough to gain my vote, it’s not me it’s them.

You obviously didn’t read what what I wrote. I said vote libertarian or some conservative third party.

after all the anti-Obama posts I’ve seen of yours blaming him for every single thing and acting like he was the anti-Christ, I feel I could testify in court that you hate the man. I however admit to loathing Bush and thinking he was a failure. However, I would not call Obama a success nor am I his yes man(I may have been once, not I since I decided not to vote for him in 2012.

I don’t blame him for every single thing and I do not believe he is the Anti-Christ.

could have fooled me.

I am staunchly opposed to him and can’t deny that. You and Frink are rigidly, and passionately, anti-Trumpers, that’s cool I have no issue with that. But I just am just as rigidly and as passionately anti-Obama. Why is one so noble and without fault in your mind while the other is somehow incoherent and intolerant? I see them as being the same, but coming from very different beliefs and perspectives.

Did Obama ever talk with pride about assaulting and sexually harassing women? did Obama ever make fun a disabled reporter? did Obama ever talk about getting Mexico to pay for a wall? Did Obama ever talk about banning people from coming into the country based on Religion? Did Obama ever say a judge was unqualified because of his race? Was Obama ridiculously grossly unqualified to be President? Was Obama a reality tv star? Was Obama’s only qualification being ridiculously rich? Did Obama defraud people trying to get an education at one his schools?

Again, I point to all of your posts during the George Bush presidency, I could have said the same about you. Just try to understand that I detest the guy as much as you detest Bush for similar, yet different reasons.

You detest Obama much more. But I will admit I was I had been a little more opened minded back then. I still wouldn’t have voted for him or been a fan of his. But my posts during his era would have been a bit different if I had to do it all over again.

There at least a possibility that I would vote for a Republican. If it had been Romney vs. Hillary, I would have voted for Romney. Has there ever a been a non-Republican that you would chose over a Republican(and note I said non-Republican not Democrat)? I vote Republican many times on local and state elections. Do you ever vote for a non-Republican in an election at any level?

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ferris209 said:

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btw, if this election had been Hillary vs. W. Bush and I was somehow forbidden to vote for anyone other than one of those two, I’d have to give Bush serious consideration. That you should tell you something.

This is simply where you and I differ, pretty much most every single person in the current Democrat party, as well as historically in most instances since they are the party of the KKK and slavery, are simply not worth casting my vote for. It has nothing to do with party as much as it has to do with my own philosophy, beliefs, and convictions.

If you think the Democratic party is the party of the KKK and slavery, you are clearly biased. I don’t know what else to say to such ridiculousness.

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Tyrphanax said:

This is why nothing gets done in this country. It’s a zero-sum game. No compromise, no meeting in the middle, no concession, no “hrm, maybe I’m wrong about this one”. Just “I’m right and you’re not only wrong but also stupid and irredeemable.”

It’s a race to the bottom and we all lose.

I try to meet in the middle. Like I said I am open to voting for Republicans.

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TV’s Frink said:

All responses I expected. I won’t waste time on most of it but you should do some research on how many people have trouble getting their required ID, who it affects (hint: the elderly, the poor, minorities, etc.), and how much more common it is than the extraordinarily rare cases of in-person voter fraud.

Oh, and what’s your defense for the Supreme Court thing?

yeah, he never answered that one.

btw, I am for the Dems filibustering any Supreme Court nominee until Merrick Garland gets an up or down vote.

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ferris209 said:

You mean like how Conservatives redraw districts to get more power?

Liberals do the same.

true, but it doesn’t make it right. I want it stopped on both sides. I hope you can at least agree with that.

You mean like how Conservatives try to restrict voter rights under the false guise of needing voter ID?

Who’s voting rights are restricted by needing a photo ID? You must really hate Mexico.

??? How does being against needing a photo ID to vote mean you hate Mexico?

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Ferris can you at least agree that if a Republican had been in office instead of Obama, that they would have rushed to get a replacement for Scalia instead of waiting to “let the people decide”? and before you answer, yes I know the Dems might have tried the same delay tactic.

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6 days till doomsday.

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Warbler said:

6 days till doomsday.

Maybe moving to Canada like all the others who promised it if Trump got elected would be a good decision for you? I hear British Columbia is rather beautiful.

😉

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I hate the drawing style and also it’s not funny.

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Why isn’t it funny?

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I don’t know, humor is subjective?

Are you going to waterboard me next?

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Of course not. I was just curious.

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Why would someone waterboard another for a different opinion on humor?