Ranking the Star Wars films — Page 68

Yeah, that evil plane of existence can stay as far away from me as possible.

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I do appreciate his commitment to the bit. Even if his shtick has gotten stale I didn’t think he’d be able to keep up to pretense for this long. We must have really pissed the man off.

VegetableMan said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

So you live in TFN.

Haha, I never actually ventured there, and I don’t think I will!

As much as we bitch about them, do they even know we exist?

imperialscum said:

OT
R1

the rest of the crap

X 2

IP55 said:

imperialscum said:

OT
R1

the rest of the crap

X 2

Now there are two of them.

ANH
ESB
R1
ROTJ
TFA
ROTS
AOTC
TPM

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

I do appreciate his commitment to the bit. Even if his shtick has gotten stale I didn’t think he’d be able to keep up to pretense for this long.

I merely asked why as I was genuinely interested. I do not see any pretence in that.

We must have really pissed the man off.

Don’t flatter yourself.

Actually if anything someone like Frink should have angered you more. I’m not so pompous as to delude myself into thinking me merely disagreeing with you would prompt you to go on this childish endeavor.

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:
I’m not so pompous as to delude myself into thinking me merely disagreeing with you would prompt you to go on this childish endeavor.

FTFY

Sorry, I have completely lost you. Could you please explain these three points to me:

1. How is asking a simple and logical question like “why not?”, in response to a comment about my ranking (i.e. “I did not see that coming”), being “pissed off”?

2. How is wondering about 1. being “childish endeavour”?

3. You disagreed with me on what exactly? I don’t see any expression of disagreement in your posts with regards to my ranking. I only see rather off-topic childish endeavour in your posts.

As for the rest of that…I’m not playing your game. Try that crap with someone else.

What the heck is even happening.

I know how C3PO feels now. And it ain’t half bad.

TV’s Frink said:

What the heck is even happening.

Craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap

😄

I just watched ROTJ for the first time in years, and the worst over-the-top-ridiculous parts remind me of the worst over-the-top ridiculous parts in TFA and R1.

I think it’s the ridiculousness level that turns me off these films. Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back just felt so much more real. Sure, there are moments in both films where certain concepts or situations are silly (the protagonists sneaking around the Death Star and the Asteroid Field, for instance) but the actors and filmmakers approached each of those scenes with a very real, lifelike mentality. The films were able to be fun without stopping to blatantly acknowledge the silliness of the situation.

In ROTJ, however, there are scenes where you can kind of see Kingdom of the Crystal Skull stuff going on. The Ewok stealing the bike speeder, for instance, and leading the stormtroopers on a chase into the woods. Chewie doing a Tarzan impression during the Battle of Endor. You would just never ever see these things in Star Wars or The Empire Strikes Back, but they started showing up in Return of the Jedi (mixed in between very powerful scenes) and then they became ubiquitous in all of the rest of the Star Wars movies.

I must’ve missed the Ewoks in TFA and R1.

Jeebus said:

I must’ve missed the Ewoks in TFA and R1.

It’s not the Ewoks. I don’t mind them too much and I actually like most of their scenes, just not the ones during the battle. Movies can be fun and even cute sometimes and still be good, but the Ewoks really should have had blasters or something and made the battle more realistic and less of a farce.

For me, it’s the lighthearted “don’t take any of this seriously” tone that happens in too many scenes that bothers me. Once a film starts being too ridiculous and not taking itself even remotely serious, I personally find it off-putting. In TFA, the parts I hated the most were ones like the unrealistic Rathtar scene. Han could care less, he acts like a fly got inside his house, not much more, and the other main characters are getting their heads thrown into hard metal walls and then getting up like there’s nothing wrong with them. Meanwhile when Luke was nearly drowned in the trash compactor, he surfaces soaking wet, covered in garbage particles, and gasping for air. See the difference?

Then there are the battles. In TFA, the rebels just fly in and go pew-pew yippee we did it. Wasn’t that fun? There’s nothing real about it at all. There’s a moment in the battle at Maz’s Castle where an X-wing swoops in and fires at some bad guys on the ground to save Finn or someone at the last second, and the camera cuts to the pilot smiling like it’s another day at the Disney office. The exact same shot was recreated in Rogue One, where the Rebel pilot they kept showing was smiling and enjoying himself during a battle where all the good guys die. What is wrong with that picture? Anyone remember what Wedge and the other pilots looked like when the camera was on them during the OT?

And don’t even get me started on the idea of watching multiple star systems get blown up in real time across the galaxy with nothing but your naked eyes looking up at the sky.

The Rogue One battle was put together much better than the last battle in TFA, I will give it that. But dramatically it still doesn’t compare to any of the originals in my opinion. I think it’s a tone and approach thing. Just watch the Battle of Yavin or the Battle of Hoth. They are acted and shot and edited like they are real military battles. Rogue One and TFA feel much more like they are battles that happen in a Marvel Superhero universe. They seem more like comic book fights to me.

Empire
Star Wars
ROTJ
TFA
R1
LEGO STAR WARS SPIN OFFS 😃
ROTS
TPM
AOTC

1. The Empire Strikes Back
2. Star Wars
3. Return of the Jedi
4. The Force Awakens - Only worse than Jedi simply because it’s not part of the original trilogy, as a movie it’s just as good, but Jedi is the natural conclusion to the story.
5. Revenge of the Sith - Sure it’s not that good and continues the prequel tradition of ruining backstory that should have wrote itself, but at least it’s a movie with good music, good acting for the most part, and feels like an actual narrative and not just Star Wars characters doing things because Star Wars lol.
6. Carvan of Courage - Fun, stupid little movie.
7. The Battle for Endor - See above
8. The Clone Wars - Bad representation of a good series.
9. Rogue One - No.
10. The Phantom Menace - Bad, bad movie.
11. Attack of the Clones - This has to be some kind of sick joke.