kk650's Star Wars Saga: Regraded and Semi-Specialized (Released) — Page 33

poita said:

Then to give the image back the ‘soft glow’ that they were going for on the film

Although the skintones are a little brighter all up, (and as I said I have pushed the effect much more than usual just to illustrate the concept) the real difference is in the range of tones in the face, the nose, lips and eyes now have more depth with stronger highlights to differentiate themselves from the rest of the face.

The idea is to make the subject look more alive, and less ‘pancake’.

I came across this discussion, and I thought I would share my Technicolor version:

DrDre said:

poita said:

Then to give the image back the ‘soft glow’ that they were going for on the film

Although the skintones are a little brighter all up, (and as I said I have pushed the effect much more than usual just to illustrate the concept) the real difference is in the range of tones in the face, the nose, lips and eyes now have more depth with stronger highlights to differentiate themselves from the rest of the face.

The idea is to make the subject look more alive, and less ‘pancake’.

I came across this discussion, and I thought I would share my Technicolor version:

I’d say you’ve got a touch too much red there, turning some of the highlights on the stormtrooper armour a little orange, but apart from that it looks nice. Great image dynamics as well to my eye, brightness and contrast look just about right.

This is my color correction of the blu-ray. It is a little more saturated and has less red and green than DrDre’s technicolor frame.

yotsuya said:

This is my color correction of the blu-ray. It is a little more saturated and has less red and green than DrDre’s technicolor frame.

That one above is too red and yours has a very slight but still noticeable blue to it. Making the storm troopers outfits for example not look as white as the image above

jedimasterobiwan said:

yotsuya said:

This is my color correction of the blu-ray. It is a little more saturated and has less red and green than DrDre’s technicolor frame.

That one above is too red and yours has a very slight but still noticeable blue to it. Making the storm troopers outfits for example not look as white as the image above

I had noticed that it looks a bit blue in comparison, but it doesn’t when I watch the video render. I just posted it as an alternative. But mainly I am pleased at how the brightness and contrast are nearly identical to what DrDre posted. It is considerably brighter and less blue than the blu-ray source. Also, from a technical point of view, the two images are a simple rbg adjustment from each other, (I changed red down 15% and green down 8% on DrDre’s image to match my image and found the best whites if I changed his image by red down 5% and green down 3%).

yotsuya said:

jedimasterobiwan said:

yotsuya said:

This is my color correction of the blu-ray. It is a little more saturated and has less red and green than DrDre’s technicolor frame.

That one above is too red and yours has a very slight but still noticeable blue to it. Making the storm troopers outfits for example not look as white as the image above

I had noticed that it looks a bit blue in comparison, but it doesn’t when I watch the video render. I just posted it as an alternative. But mainly I am pleased at how the brightness and contrast are nearly identical to what DrDre posted. It is considerably brighter and less blue than the blu-ray source. Also, from a technical point of view, the two images are a simple rbg adjustment from each other, (I changed red down 15% and green down 8% on DrDre’s image to match my image and found the best whites if I changed his image by red down 5% and green down 3%).

will it show up better in a comparison video?

I wish the regraded version of The Phantom Menace had hardcoded alien subtitles, in the same font as the official Blu-Ray.

just tried to download the regraded prequels on tehparadox and all the links are down…😦

so real quick question how do you guys download the files for these movies? I am really excited to get a version of the prequels that look like they did back when I saw them in the theatres as a kid so yeah

PMs sent

Merry Christmas everyone!

For the last two weeks i’ve been working on a little Christmas present for everybody, a new Star Wars Semi-Specialised Edition V2.5 with updated colour timing and a few other little changes. I know that a few of of you felt that Leia’s fleshtones in my previous V2.2 release needed a bit more warmth to look natural so I have taken that feedback to heart with this V2.5 release and adjusted the colour grading accordingly.

I have also made two other changes to V2.5 compared to previous releases, I have replaced two specialised shots that I have always found distracting when watching previous versions of the Star Wars Semi-Specialised Edition.

The first shot is where the CG dino creature walks across the frame covering the whole screen as Luke and Ben are being stopped by Stormtroopers in Mos Eisley.

The second shot is a very silly over the top scene where Han is chasing the stormtroopers in the deathstar and in the Special Edition he comes round the corner and there are hundreds of CG stormtroopers in a docking bay waiting for him, while in the theatrical release it was just a dead end with the six stormtroopers he’d been chasing waiting for him, a very funny scene in the theatrical release that just looks very silly and fake in the Special Edition.

I used TeamNegative1’s Silver Screen Edition as my video source to reinsert these two scenes into this V2.5 (thank you so much TeamNegative1 for creating this wonderful release). I also adjusted the colour grading of the two replaced shots taken from the Silver Screen Edition to make them more seemlessly match the colour grading of the rest of V2.5 and also removed the more distracting spots and dirt that appeared here and there.

Also included in this release is a DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 upmix upmix of Belbucus’s fantastic Star Wars '93 PCM two channel audio track and the Cinema DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 track created to fit this Semi-Specialised Edition. The video bitrate has also been boosted compared to the previous V2.2 to use up all the space available on a bd-25 disc. English and Spanish subtitles are also included.

Here are some screencap comparisons between the offical blu-ray and this Star Wars Semi-Specialised Edition V2.5 release:

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And here are some screencap comparisons between the offical blu-ray and the two replaced shots in this Star Wars Semi-Specialised Edition V2.5 release:

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I’ll have this release up on tehparadox later on today and then put it up on myspleen, with freeleech right now its the perfect time for everybody interested in checking this release out.

Finally I’m sure most of you have heard about the heart attack Carrie Fisher suffered on her flight from London to LA and that she is currently in intensive care. I feel that it would be only right to dedicate this V2.5 release to the amazing Carrie Fisher. The Star Wars Original Trilogy would not have been the same without her. My prayers go out to her and her loved ones who must be suffering a great deal right now. I hope she ends up being okay and makes a swift recovery.

Merry Xmas, kk.

Thanks for taking some of that feedback to heart. Your color does look to be improved here!

Did you use Silver Screen 1.6? It has better color, cleanup, bitrate, and degraining (for matching to BD) compared to 1.0. I only mention this because I wish I could’ve used it for Despecialized 2.7 😉

Thanks!

Merry Christmas to you too towne32.

I’m glad you like the colours more. I actually used both 1.5 and 1.6, 1.5 for the dino replacement shot and 1.6 for the stormtrooper dead end replacement shot. I think I checked out 1.0 at one point a while back when I was just considering replacing those two shots but decided the quality wasn’t sufficient to fit in seamlessly with the blu-ray footage, so I shelved the whole idea. When I first saw 1.5 and 1.6 though, I was confident I could make it work.

Merry Christmas to you too, kk650! It’s so cool that you posted this today — I came here just to check on some technical details of the 2.2 release and saw that you’ve brought this out.

One quick question for you (or anyone else who knows) — what’s the difference between the two DTS HD-MA 5.1 audio tracks? If I’m to listen to one, should I be listening to the upmix of the PCM mix or the one labelled ‘Cinema DTS-HD MA 5.1’?

Anyway, thanks again for v2.5, and I second your good wishes regarding Carrie Fisher.

JaffaCakeRhubarb said:

Merry Christmas to you too, kk650! It’s so cool that you posted this today — I came here just to check on some technical details of the 2.2 release and saw that you’ve brought this out.

One quick question for you (or anyone else who knows) — what’s the difference between the two DTS HD-MA 5.1 audio tracks? If I’m to listen to one, should I be listening to the upmix of the PCM mix or the one labelled ‘Cinema DTS-HD MA 5.1’?

Anyway, thanks again for v2.5, and I second your good wishes regarding Carrie Fisher.

The main difference is that the PCM upmix is based off Belbucus’s '93 2 channel PCM audio track so it doesn’t have all the directional sound effects and flourishes that were added to the later 5.1 audio mixes like the Cinema DTS tracks. I personally love Belbucus’s '93 2 channel PCM audio track the most, the music has the prominence it deserves while later Star Wars surround sound audio mixes gave more prominence to the sound effects to the detriment of the music.

The Star Wars Semi-Specialised Edition V2.5 is now up on myspleen and tehparadox. Here are updated screencap comparisons for all seven Star Wars regrades:

Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope Semi-Specialised Edition V2.5:

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Regraded Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace Regrained Edition V2

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Regraded Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones V2

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Regraded Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith V2

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Are the other ones new versions or just ANH?

The new release is Star Wars, my favourite of the Original Trilogy. I don’t think i’ll ever get tired of trying to improve this amazing film 😃

Can the color experts in the community advise whether KK650’s 2.5 is the best existing regraded release of the ANH bluray (ahead of the release of Neverar’s and 4K77)? There was also a release by Newguy a while ago that was quite good too.

Stotchy said:

Can the color experts in the community advise whether KK650’s 2.5 is the best existing regraded release of the ANH bluray (ahead of the release of Neverar’s and 4K77)? There was also a release by Newguy a while ago that was quite good too.

It would be pretty hard to give an objective answer like that. Especially since his grading is one based on his own preference rather than a specific reference. There are a lot of shots that I like better in my own grading, but there are certainly a lot I like better in his. The Death Star is probably a bit bluer than ideal in mine, and I think his probably still could use slightly warmer skin tones, but I like it a lot better than his last release.

I’ve seen a ton of Neverar’s, and I do indeed probably prefer his grading over everything else. But even that is going to be based on a technicolor sort of feel, but very subjective as far as what all the final decisions are. I do think both his and KK’s are looking very consistent within their own respective releases.

What we’ve seen of 4k77 looks brilliant, but it’s only the first few shots of the film. Too much difficult material lies ahead to give any sort of answer.

I love Harmy’s simply because of the nostalgia factor but I think this is the version of ANH I want to watch whenever I get the hankering; the updated special effects of the SE really modernize it. Thanks for all the hard work.

New member here.

I’ve been following this thread for a while now and finally decided to make an account. I just want to say thanks for all the hard work and dedication that was put in these edits. The final products look breathtaking. Definitely looking forward to sitting down and watching these in the near future. They may even become my go-to versions of the films. Happy New Year!

Hi, longtime reader and new member here. I gotta say version 2.5 has turned out great, kk650! Your Semi-Specialised Editions are my go-to versions whenever I want to watch the original trilogy with some of the later changes/additions. I wanted to check out ESB 2.2 with the new 5.1 tracks, but many of the download links on tehparadox are dead. Can these SSEs be found on myspleen? If yes, I would greatly appreciate an invite. It would certainly make it easier to get hold of them.

TheLastOfTheJedi said:

Hi, longtime reader and new member here. I gotta say version 2.5 has turned out great, kk650! Your Semi-Specialised Editions are my go-to versions whenever I want to watch the original trilogy with some of the later changes/additions. I wanted to check out ESB 2.2 with the new 5.1 tracks, but many of the download links on tehparadox are dead. Can these SSEs be found on myspleen? If yes, I would greatly appreciate an invite. It would certainly make it easier to get hold of them.

You are in the wrong spot if you’re asking for an invite. The thread below is where you need to ask. Thanks.

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Post-in-this-thread-to-request-an-invite-to-MySpleenorg-you-MUST-read-the-first-post/id/8592/page/114#1037176