Hi again, first chance to chime in about Vader again despite the topic having kind of shifted from that. So if that’s an issue I apologize.
In regards to the Bespin duel in ESB, comparing that to Vader going apeshit isn’t really the same. There’s so much context to that duel, so much feeling, so much shifting motivations, how Vader just toys with Luke for awhile and then goes all out by the end that it’s not even a fair comparison. In the new one, he just goes apeshit to a level only seen in something like The Force Unleashed, not something I personally want to see films borrow from. There’s no context, no real meaning to it, and it’s the only time he pulls out a lightsaber for anyone not wielding the same, calling to question numerous times he could have done so in the original films. That’s something that would happen in Revenge of the Sith, a film I’d rather not have to be reminded of.
The end of ESB shows Vader does have limitations, Luke was still incredibly inexperienced, why couldn’t Vader just lift him up at any point like he does the Rebels? Why does Vader suddenly seem so much more limitless in what he’s capable of doing with the Force in Rogue One and come across as sort of a putz in the original by comparison? His line in ESB, “Bring my shuttle”, shows just how much rage he was just trying to keep in after having his plans foiled. That’s not the same kind of guy who would just go apeshit to no-name rebels.
In this way, the use of Tarkin was much more faithful to the character, he never does anything we wouldn’t expect him to. But Vader has changed from all the video games and the prequel films reframing his character since the OT that it somehow influenced how he is portrayed right before the events of the original film. It doesn’t mesh. Why would he be okay with sending in the troops onto the Tantive later on when he could just deal with them himself much more effectively? Why wouldn’t he use more effective means to torture the rebel commander on the ship, instead of accidentally kill him clumsily?
It pretty much ruins his original introduction if we’re to believe the Vader in Rogue One is the same Vader in Star Wars.
I know I probably won’t change any minds on this, I’m only speaking for myself. In regards to nobody asking for Yoda and everybody asking for this, I don’t think that’s possible to measure. I’ve heard plenty of the opposite of both from numerous others, that it’s just not a fair thing to assume. Let’s just speak for ourselves if we continue with that.
Anyway, thanks for reading if you made it this far. I don’t think I have much more to add.