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SilverWook said:

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What’s the name of the planet where Krennic visits Vader? Was that supposed to be Mustafar or somewhere else?

That was Mustafar. Paublo Hidalgo said as much on twitter… well he didn’t as much say it outright but he did allude to it from a line in the rebels season 1 finale which did take place on mustafar.

Vader won’t set foot on Tatooine, but he’ll buy a summer home on the planet where he almost burned to death? 😉

Palpatine’s pit bull is kept firmly in the hate zone…

Just come out from seeing it and I have to say I very much enjoyed it… It is a major rebound back to something that at least means something and does have feeling to it. I felt something from watching the film and reacted a few times to things that happen.

Small gripe Vader does not sound right they have left too many high frequencies in JEJ voice I feel. Right at the end I felt it started to get a bit over sentimental but it was ok.

Basically my Rating for this film is a solid and entertainment 8.5/10

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Saw if today and loved it. It’s the prequel we’ve been waiting for.
Not sure if mentioned but Vader’s eyes being red and not black. It’s a subtle detail that matters.

Also if I’d never seen Star Wars would I know Tarkin is CGI? It’s well done but knowing it’s CGI makes it look CGI to me. “Ignorance is bliss”

I’m seeing it again on Sunday anyway.

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Thought it was pretty great, although I’d rate it a bit behind TFA, mostly because I just didn’t enjoy the actors and characters as much. Donnie was great, Alan was great, Felicity was very good, and I did enjoy Tarkin, but otherwise there was too much “meh” character-wise. Especially the main dude protagonist, he got a ton of screen time and I found him to be very not interesting, as a character and as an actor. I can’t even remember his name.

The ending was fantastic.

ANH 9.5/10
ESB 9.4/10
TFA 8.8/10
RO 8.6/10
ROTJ 7.9/10
TPM 4.4/10
ROTS 3.1/10
AOTC 0.1/10

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Im tired, so I will be short. Loved the final 2 min, the movie was maybe a bit better than TFA and WTF was up with Vaders neck piece? It looked like he had a quadruple chin under the helemt. Why was it so damn wide and fat? Didnt look right. I need to see the movie again to really comment on more. But like Ive said in so many prior posts here, with many disagreeing, you have to view these movies with a filter. You have to view them as if you were a 7-13 yr old boy. Thus far, I havent heard one negative review from someone in that age range. Acting aside and story aside, if it entertains the child in us, or the child with us, then it succeeded. Thats just my opinion. As far as the CGI, I didnt really mind it. I think its cool we have the technology to resurrect a dead actor and look, sound and act like them. Maybe some kind of blur filter mightve helped hide some of the small flaws, but to a kid, they wont care or probably notice it. Could it have been written and executed better? Sure! We will probably never get back that feeling and awe we felt that first time we saw ANH. Well, those of us that saw it in 77-79 that is. A 7 yr old seeing ANH in 1977 is going to have a completely different perception of the film from a 7 yr old seeing it in 1988, and in turn that 7 yr olds perception will be different from one seeing it in 2000. I think each of us get a little bit something different out of each of these newer films. What excites one person may fall flat with another. We have to take the good with the bad and hope for the best in the next film. Me personally, the last 2 or 3 minutes was awesome! That alone was worth the price of admission.

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For me the beginning kinda frustrates me. Why did they park so far away. Wasn’t she running away then she’s up close watching, then she’s running away again.
Overall loved it though.

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lots of cameos. R2 and 3PO cameo perfect. “We’re wanted men” guys unnecessary.

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I thought the “We’re wanted men” guys were a much better cameo than R2/C3PO. At least it was something new.

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K2SO’s death scene > Han Solo death scene.

That shouldnt be but it is.

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Just got back from seeing Rogue One and it was excellent! 😄 For all the people out there Cassian definitely shoots that one guy in the back at the beginning of the movie. As a matter of fact there’s no question about it, it’s as clear as day. I only have a few minor nitpicks. Darth Vader’s cape was a bit too big, Dr. Evazan’s nose looked too big and Ponda Baba’s head looked a little too big. There also wasn’t enough of Moroff in the film and when we do see him he’s out of focus most of the time. This film does look extremely luscious and I’ll be rewinding and playing back that Darth Vader scene at the end of the movie several times on each home viewing. The way that Vader mows those rebels down at the end was so perfectly done. 😄 He just destroys them all with such elegance and grace. This Star Wars film works so perfectly in showing us that the rebellion isn’t always the good guys on the white horses. Disney sure has some balls in having a Star Wars movie where no one makes it out alive and in bringing Peter Cushing back from the dead and also bringing back a young Carrie Fisher. The cgi on Tarkin was good while Leia’s cgi was perfect. I’m going to have to watch this fine film multiple times of course and I’m sure I’ll love it more with each viewing.

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luckydube56 said:

K2SO’s death scene > Han Solo death scene.

That shouldnt be but it is.

Because it’s Han Solo, I think his death automatically gets a huge advantage. I love the character to death and to see him portrayed so well in Force Awakens by Ford again, only to be killed off by some brat, was very depressing. K2SO’s death was really emotional for me and I thought it was really well done but you simply cannot compete with Han Solo. At least for myself.

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luckydube56 said:

K2SO’s death scene > Han Solo death scene.

That shouldnt be but it is.

K-2SO’s death scene is actually pretty damn sad. He keeps getting cut to pieces with blaster fire but he keeps hanging in there.

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TV’s Frink said:

Thought it was pretty great, although I’d rate it a bit behind TFA, mostly because I just didn’t enjoy the actors and characters as much. Donnie was great, Alan was great, Felicity was very good, and I did enjoy Tarkin, but otherwise there was too much “meh” character-wise. Especially the main dude protagonist, he got a ton of screen time and I found him to be very not interesting, as a character and as an actor. I can’t even remember his name.

The ending was fantastic.

ANH 9.5/10
ESB 9.4/10
TFA 8.8/10
RO 8.6/10
ROTJ 7.9/10
TPM 4.4/10
ROTS 3.1/10
AOTC 0.1/10

So glad to see someone else putting TFA ahead for the same reason. Jones and Luna both gave wonderful performances, but the writing just wasn’t there. I actually really loved every member of the main gang except the two main ones. Donnie Yen was just spectacular, and Riz Ahmed really endeared his character to me in spite of not having a hell of a lot to do.

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joefavs said:

TV’s Frink said:

Thought it was pretty great, although I’d rate it a bit behind TFA, mostly because I just didn’t enjoy the actors and characters as much. Donnie was great, Alan was great, Felicity was very good, and I did enjoy Tarkin, but otherwise there was too much “meh” character-wise. Especially the main dude protagonist, he got a ton of screen time and I found him to be very not interesting, as a character and as an actor. I can’t even remember his name.

The ending was fantastic.

ANH 9.5/10
ESB 9.4/10
TFA 8.8/10
RO 8.6/10
ROTJ 7.9/10
TPM 4.4/10
ROTS 3.1/10
AOTC 0.1/10

So glad to see someone else putting TFA ahead for the same reason. Jones and Luna both gave wonderful performances, but the writing just wasn’t there. I actually really loved every member of the main gang except the two main ones. Donnie Yen was just spectacular, and Riz Ahmed really endeared his character to me in spite of not having a hell of a lot to do.

I liked what there was of the new characters but there wasn’t much. Rogue One honestly doesn’t even come close to TFA for me. Add all the RO characters up and mulitply by 10 and I still don’t care as much about them as Rey (or even Finn or Kylo Ren).

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If we could get a film with Rogue One’s brain and TFA’s heart, we’d have a perfect late period Star Wars movie. Here’s lookin’ at you, Rian.

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joefavs said:

If we could get a film with Rogue One’s brain and TFA’s heart, we’d have a perfect late period Star Wars movie. Here’s lookin’ at you, Rian.

That’s a great way of putting it. I felt the same way: I have issues with TFA, but character development was top notch.

What’s the internal temperature of a TaunTaun? Luke warm.

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Eh, it was cool, but very depressing. So much to take in on the first viewing. Ending had me verklempt. It was so strange not having a crawl, though!

Did anyone hear the signature Wilhelm scream? Can’t recall noticing it…

“That said, there is nothing wrong with mocking prequel lovers and belittling their bad taste.” - Alderaan, 2017

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joefavs said:

If we could get a film with Rogue One’s brain and TFA’s heart, we’d have a perfect late period Star Wars movie. Here’s lookin’ at you, Rian.

This is really what it boils down to for me… This film does not treat the audience like some kind of thicko.

It respects it’s audience that it can actually think. Whilst it does have heart because you do feel for the characters when they pop their cloggs.

When Han died in TFA it was just oh ok they killed him bye Han… the way it was done I never felt anything.

In Rogue one I did feel something for the characters so Rogue One at least for me wins on both counts.

Although it would always be nice to get more character development Rogue One used it’s screen time ever so well, and you can’t fault it for achieving so much in such a small space of time with an ensemble cast I think.

There are further layers to the story that have been shaved off… So you will have to buy the Novel to the film or the Graphic novel for those if you want to know what was cut back on character development.

I am Glad to say this won’t be my last trip to see a Star Wars movie under new Disney they won me back on this one.


Willheim screen when Jyn takes the gun and pushes the storm trooper off the ledge on EADU.

A mate I went with was “Bothered” by Vaders Neck piece that seems to be sticking out so yeah weird costume issue.

Why did General Raddus suddenly become a CGI Raddus now there’s a curiosity and I wish it could have remained his puppet version throughout the film.

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Ronster said:

joefavs said:

If we could get a film with Rogue One’s brain and TFA’s heart, we’d have a perfect late period Star Wars movie. Here’s lookin’ at you, Rian.

This is really what it boils down to for me… This film does not treat the audience like some kind of thicko.

It respects it’s audience that it can actually think. Whilst it does have heart because you do feel for the characters when they pop their cloggs.

When Han died in TFA it was just oh ok they killed him bye Han… the way it was done I never felt anything.

In Rogue one I did feel something for the characters so Rogue One at least for me wins on both counts.

Although it would always be nice to get more character development Rogue One used it’s screen time ever so well, and you can’t fault it for achieving so much in such a small space of time with an ensemble cast I think.

Well said.

Even though I agree what joefavs said, you can read it like R1 didn’t have any heart. I think it had very much of it, too. The guys who made this had their hearts in the right place and I think it showed. Maybe it didn’t have as much heart as TFA but just the right amount, TFA went a little overboard at times. R1 didn’t toot its own horn nor did it need to.

And in the time of greatest despair, there shall come a savior, and he shall be known as the Son of the Suns.

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I find it kinda silly that people need to justify the differences in fighting between this and Episode 4. For me it just boils down to the fact that it was made nearly 40 years ago and the props were mechanically spinning devices that were very fragile and had to point towards the camera at the correct angle (George attempted to do the lightsaber effect in camera). Just look at Empire: the lightsaber fight is much more exciting since they were using solid “dumb” props.

What’s the internal temperature of a TaunTaun? Luke warm.

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Have to see it again before really rendering judgement but my first impressions is that Rogue One is a fine addition to the series. Going to see it again at 12 today and I couldn’t be happier.

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I want to add that it was really hot for some reason in the theater and it did lessen the experience. Shame on you AMC for having me pay so much money to be uncomfortable while watching a movie.

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Rogue One isn’t a movie about characters, it is a movie about the state of the galaxy and how that affects the characters living in it, and to that end, I feel like the characters were kinda meant to blend into the backdrop a bit, because the real characters of the film are the Rebellion and the Empire. It’s just not a character film, and I don’t think it was meant to be one.

I don’t feel like the character writing was especially weak: was Han any more developed at the end of Star Wars than Cassian? Ignore Empire and Jedi and Awakens. Leaving the theater, I felt like I knew each character’s archetype and story as much as I do at the end of Star Wars. And I felt the story writing was very strong and all worked and made sense.

Rogue One isn’t about heroes or romantic ideas of daring escapes. It’s about normal people defined by off-screen events (mostly) who sacrifice themselves to further a larger cause. It’s a war movie (well, war movie lite) in that way. They just straight up die, and it’s not heroic or romanticized or pretty or glorious. It’s (mostly) quick and ugly. Rogue One is more Black Hawk Down than Saving Private Ryan: a dramatized telling of “real” events, almost a documentary.

The point of Rogue One was to expand and flesh out the universe we know, not give us a bunch of new characters to love who we’ll never see again. They served their purpose and did their duty. And I think the movie did an incredible job showing us different sides of the universe we know without shrinking it or blowing the chance (the infrastructure and politics of the Empire, the seedy underbelly and politics of the Rebellion, the badass fighter side of Vader), it showed us a lot of things we had always assumed, but had never been seen and they pulled it all off while tying it all into the OT and did it without a hitch, which is an amazing feat in and of itself.

A great movie, I think. I’ll post more once I see it again.

Keep Circulating the Tapes.

END OF LINE

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Tyrphanax said:

Rogue One isn’t a movie about characters, it is a movie about the state of the galaxy and how that affects the characters living in it, and to that end, I feel like the characters were kinda meant to blend into the backdrop a bit, because the real characters of the film are the Rebellion and the Empire. It’s just not a character film, and I don’t think it was meant to be one.

I don’t feel like the character writing was especially weak: was Han any more developed at the end of Star Wars than Cassian? Ignore Empire and Jedi and Awakens. Leaving the theater, I felt like I knew each character’s archetype and story as much as I do at the end of Star Wars. And I felt the story writing was very strong and all worked and made sense.

I’m going to have to get back to you on this one…

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Now that’s more like it! Very enjoyable and I can safely say my favorite Star Wars film since 1980! Yes there are a few issues, but forgivable ones.

“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison

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I think R1 really tells us something about the futility of war in general.

Ol’ George has the GOUT, I see.