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Originally posted by: JediSage

"....and ORDAIN elders in every city, as I had appointed thee: If any be blameless, the HUSBAND of ONE WIFE, having children..." emphasis mine.

Well it would seem to say it, but not very clearly. It would also seem to indicate that is ok for the clergy to marry. So tell me if this verse had instead said "... be blameless, the
WHITE Husband of of one wife..." would that mean only white men would be allowed to be priests? All because of this one verse?

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Originally posted by: Trooperman

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When does life begin?...I can't answer that one

I can. It begins at conception, when the sperm meets the egg and completely different DNA is created. That's scientific fact.

From the MOMENT OF CONCEPTION, that baby has completely different DNA from the mother. It's another person.

It's alive, correct? Yes, the fetus has life. Plant life? No. Animal life? No. Guess what? It's HUMAN life.

Well, not everyone agrees with your OPINION of when HUMAN life begins. I grant you that the fetus at point of conception is alive, but is it HUMAN? That is the question. And remember the sperm and eggs cell are technically alive BEFORE conception, yet no one treats the egg and sperm cells BEFORE conception as HUMAN life. The Bible clearly says murder is wrong, but where does it say that HUMAN life and HUMAN rights begin at conception? (and I'm not saying it doesn't say it somewhere, I'm not an expert on the bible)

Shim:
I think one of the reasons we celebrate birthdays instead conception days is because in most cases we know when a person was born , but many times we do not know the exact day that one was conceived.

On homosexuals: Do I think it is normal? no. Do I think homosexuals are somehow subhuman and should die? no. Are homosexuals intitled to the same rights as heterosexuals? yes Should homosexuals be allowed to be married by judges and religions that accept homosexually? yes. Should religions be able to consider homosexuallity sinfull , and ban it under their own rules(ie not allow homosexuals to be members of the church, and not allow the clergy of that church to conduct homosexual weddings)? yes.
Should you hate someone just because of their sexual preference? no, that is no way to judge a person.