Single Pass Regrade of Grindhouse ESB (Released) — Page 2

I figured out from watching it why people think that look through twice. If you watch the scene in the Middle where he could have thrown and missed Luke is pulling the cord out again after you already pulled the cord out while the Stormtroopers are trying to break through the door. So if you’d already read the book which came out in six months before the movie did and read about the double throw and we’re watching the movie and your mind might have tricked you into thinking that you saw him throw when in fact you didn’t. He looks up and sees where to throw and then he throws. So I think it’s that error in editing where they used a second bit of Luke suddenly pulling the cord out of his belt again that made a lot of people who read the book think that he threw twice in the movie. I’m not sure exactly where my memory comes from but I was 7 I’m and I think my mom read the book to me because it was a little advanced for a 7 year old and then we saw the movie much later. I saw the original cut 10 times, but I have no idea how often I read the book. My memory still says I saw it, but the facts say it was never there.

Update (Version 10!)
So taking something Poita and Willrob mentioning to me into consideration about the green snow and the green ending credits, I realized I actually could adjust the hue even more, throw up the saturation levels still high but then back off the red channel considerably. It might not be “accurate” but I really enjoy this version.

Thoughts?

poita said:

The Red Velvet Curtain Edition.
It looks very lush.

I’ll take that as a compliment, thanks! LOL on my other monitor the cave snow is still green. Thing is, with a one shot correction you have to take the good changes with the bad changes across the entire film. What I can’t believe is that I was able to crank up saturation over 40 percent and not burn the living snot out of all the faces. Comparing it to Harmy’s and Adywan’s SE there is a lot of “grey” that I turned “blue”. But I still feel overall this is more pleasurable to my eyes than the original grindhouse colors. “Lush” is exactly what I was going for.

poita said:
Kind of the Baz Lurmann treatment.

Moulin Rouge and The Great Gatsby!!! HELL YES.

Update:

So yesterday morning I rendered out a 30 minute portion so I could view it on my Plasma TV, which is very important because I really believe the brightness/contrast on my TV is set correctly, whereas all 3 of my computer monitors are all completely different.

Unfortunately what I saw was hideous. The contrast is so high that dark parts of the film are crushed very badly. And likewise, that has the effect of making the saturation look GOOFY high, which I think is what Poita has been seeing on his end. The sad part is… calibrating a monitor’s brightness can be done relatively decently by eye with calibration charts:

http://www.techhive.com/article/2079503/easily-calibrate-your-new-hdtv.html (see second half of article for images)

I spent the entire day going back and forth between avidemux 15 minute renders and my TV. I’m still not satisfied though I’m VERY close. The hard part is, in order to get the film to look right to me, the black of space is going pretty bright in the intro crawl. One pass correction is starting to bite me pretty hard. 😃 Hopefully I’ll have some new screenshots tonight.

Ripped this off of Dr. Dre’s blu ray thread… he said this would serve for his blu ray regrade inspiration when he gets to that movie in the future.

It’s actually tint shifted even more than the tint shift I did. You can see the slight “green” in Lando’s face and the more orange of the walls. I have a version I’m excited to test when I get home. Almost there.

Question, how do we feel about adding in a touch of sharpening?

Blackout said:

Dreamaster said:

Question, how do we feel about adding in a touch of sharpening?

Feeling real good.

😃

Updated photos:

This is probably close to my final version. The gamma has been adjusted considerably from the grindhouse edition and this version looks pretty decent across all of my various display sources. I applied a bit of sharpening to this one as well. Added in a few new shots.

Update: So this is from the “final version”… I watched the entire film through a few nights ago, there’s a few spots where it seems the saturation is a bit high… but “this 5 second scene has too much saturation” is a far cry from the original’s issues.

A question was posed about the warmth of the Cloud City landing platform. Right before the ship does it’s last “turn” the movie actually SHOWS the “grade change” from normal to warm and then the next shot is the strong sunset that I’ve showed above. So when they land it makes sense that they are outside in this “heavily warm sunset” grading still. Here is before/after shots of the regrade:

Here… note the neutral color of the doorway:

OMG!! ❤️

But pretty sure they WANTED the interior to be warm from the red sunlight pouring in through “windows”… note again, the color temp difference of the doorway, this stay though, that image stays with C3PO (where he gets blasted!)

And finally… the very next scene… again shows how this recoloration shows that from shot to shot the color is all there and pretty consistant (and natural!!), it was just hidden in the Grindhouse megenta’s push and fade:

Wow! I’m only looking at this on an iPad, but that last version looks insanely good!

Hey Dreamster, as much as I like this grading I really don’t like the sharpening, it looks unnatural. Could you please ditch it?

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fmalover said:

Hey Dreamster, as much as I like this grading I really don’t like the sharpening, it looks unnatural. Could you please ditch it?

There was no sharpening applied the shots of the Cloud City platform. I didn’t like it either, and though it might sound arrogant, I thought it might be easier for someone who wants to tackle a multipass regrade to start from mine so I also left it out to keep it more “pure”.

Dreamaster said:

fmalover said:

Hey Dreamster, as much as I like this grading I really don’t like the sharpening, it looks unnatural. Could you please ditch it?

There was no sharpening applied the shots of the Cloud City platform. I didn’t like it either, and though it might sound arrogant, I thought it might be easier for someone who wants to tackle a multipass regrade to start from mine so I also left it out to keep it more “pure”.

Good to know. I guess your regrade of the Grinshouse will be the best version of TESB until we get poita’s restoration.

OMG that latest regrade looks so beautiful…

Dreamaster said:

Blackout said:

Dreamaster said:

Question, how do we feel about adding in a touch of sharpening?

Feeling real good.

😃

Updated photos:

This is probably close to my final version. The gamma has been adjusted considerably from the grindhouse edition and this version looks pretty decent across all of my various display sources. I applied a bit of sharpening to this one as well. Added in a few new shots.

This looks great, mate. The saturation is very pleasing. Hope you can make this available. 😃