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Originally posted by: Asha
As far as I'm concerned, speculating about a scenario in which homosexuality is so commonplace that humans can only reproduce through artificial means to avoid extinction ... that's pure science fiction. It ain't gonna happen. Unless you believe most men would PREFER to be gay were it not for social pressures. Last I checked there were ample heterosexuals to keep this planet overpopulated.
You were the one who attempted to prove the "naturality" of the situation by observing farm animals. However, let's take it out of the realm of "science fiction", and I guess posing a hypothetical question qualifies as science fiction, let me risk another that hopefully will be less offensive: Which sexual orientation is best prepared to propogate the species? Going to another debate I've had recently, using the part of Darwin's theory that many choose to ignore (ie: Survival of the Fittest), if homosexuality were naturual, would not Darwin's theory dictate that it must be the dominant orientation in order to survive?
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And by the way, the 'fetus' is a blobby cluster of cells for a good long while before birth ... no heartbeat; no brainwaves. Ever know a woman who miscarried in the first month or two of pregnancy? I have -- there's no loss of human life involved. A lot of women would notice a broken nail before they'd notice they miscarried.
There's a big difference between a miscarriage and an abortion, and again, personhood should not be measured with a scale, or with an iq test, or by a court.
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And enough with the "why can't we all get along" stuff ... this "discussion" went on for pages without only a scant few people willing to disagree, and with no opposing opinions the conversation devolved into comments like the "spread her legs" crap. I'm sure some people find tha enjoyable, but it's not at all pretty to look at from an outsider's perspective.
Debate is a good thing, however there comes a point for everyone, whether on a BBS or in person, when it becomes uncomfortable. A person can choose to withdraw when they wish to (I know I said I would, but you've inspired me to stick around for a while) or plead for everyone to make nice nice.
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