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The Force Awakens: Official Review Thread - ** SPOILERS ** — Page 120

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I just bought TFA in HD on iTunes to get access to the commentary, and I don’t see it anywhere. Can anyone confirm they’ve gotten the commentary through iTunes? It’s a bitch to try to return a movie and get a refund.

I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.

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doubleofive said:

Tobar said:

Hardcore Legend said:

TV’s Frink said:

The J.J. commentary was a good listen. I only wish they had included another person, I always find it more entertaining when it’s a conversation rather than a solo-effort.*

*No need to make the Han joke unless you can come up with something really good.

Why include anyone other than J.J. since he’s the brains, sweetheart.

Well…I think there’s a pretty good argument to include Lawrence Kasdan the co-writer of The Force Awakens and writer of The Empire Strikes Back. I’d also love to hear from Kathleen Kennedy and her thoughts on bringing this all about. And then of course there’d be a lot of interest in a special commentary with Carrie Fisher, Mark Hamill and Harrison Ford. Heck, a commentary from the folks at ILM would be fascinating. Point is, the buck does not stop with Abrams.

whoosh

That’s the sound of the joke of Frink asking for a Han Solo joke, getting it, and Tobar missing it.

Yeah in fairness it was a lame joke. It’d have been cool to have a joint JJ/Kasdan commentary as it seems they really worked closely together to break the story and write the script. It’d also be great to hear from some of the other people involved as well, though perhaps on a separate track. If you listen to something like JJ’s Star Trek commentary there’s a bunch of interesting tidbits but there’s also 4 or 5 people on it so you get the feeling there’s so much stuff you’re missing.

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Got the TFA one too! I have no use for the DVD though. Maybe I will replace it with the CD of the soundtrack… This big sleeve release is a beautiful object, great quality overall.

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I’ve always been somewhat fascinated by the fanaticism I’ve seen in regards to defending the Prequel Trilogy. But it’s amazing how far removed from reality their latest tactics are:

The BIG difference between the PT and the new movies is that they actually used models and miniatures with motion control shooting while the new movies are using tons of CGI instead for the very simple reason that is the way it’s done now. In terms of practical effects it’s no-contest. The PT wins hands down.

PT spaceships were minatures, they weren’t in TFA…but PT aliens were mostly cartoon-like CGIs vs mostly state-of-the-art puppets/animatronics in TFA. So….50/50 haha.

Is this a joke?! The Force Awekens have more CGI than any other Star Wars movie. Prequels actually used more practical sets and miniatures than original trilogy. In TFA every ship, every space shoot is complete CGI. In prequels ships in space are miniatures. Practical effects.

Anyone else seen some odd examples lately?

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Where did you find those? TFN? Youtube comments?

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TV’s Frink said:

Where did you find those? TFN? Youtube comments?

It’s from research.
You are not worth identifying sources for.

—A certain rotund debate champ

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Comments section on a movie news site reporting on George’s set visit.

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I think maybe these folks only saw TPM.

Keep Circulating the Tapes.

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Tyrphanax said:

I think maybe these folks only saw TPM.

lol, really.

Like how the vast majority of every prequel practical fx argument, shows like 80% TPM stuff.

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Special effects are a non-issue. If the story, characters, etc. all work, special effects are just bonus. When nothing else works, then one notices the poor effects, because there’s nothing else good in it to distract from it.

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suspiciouscoffee said:

Special effects are a non-issue. If the story, characters, etc. all work, special effects are just bonus. When nothing else works, then one notices the poor effects, because there’s nothing else good in it to distract from it.

“A special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing.” - WHO MIGHT HAVE SAID THIS I WONDER?

Keep Circulating the Tapes.

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He’s right (but ROTS is a far stronger movie).

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MalàStrana said:

He’s right (but ROTS is a far stronger movie).

I’v come to enjoy Hal9000’s ROTS more than Force Awakens. But if I’m comparing the theatrical releases, well then I’d have to go with Force Awakens.

To be honest, I dont have the hate for the prequels that many do. I’m just indifferent to it and have written it off as non-existent. TFA is approaching that same status as time wears on. I dont hate it but it is utterly uncompelling and i’ve learned to ignore it.

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The early reactions for Rogue One offer a subtle but important contrast to those of The Force Awakens.

After the premier of TFA, the reactions indicated that the fans’ hunger for nostalgia was satiated. The comments were along the lines of “Star Wars is back!!!” and “it was so great to see Han and Leia again, etc.” and “I love Rey”.

The early reactions to Rogue One speak of all the surprises. The moments where the fans got choked up. THe moments of humor. The excellent story. The twists and turns that have not even been revealed in spite of all that has been exposed in the months leading up to last night’s premier. The fact that all expectations were exceeded and that…it was better than TFA.

People have fooled themselves into believing TFA belongs in the pantheon of the Original Trilogy. It doesnt. And as more films are added to the Star Wars galaxy, TFA will be bumped further and further down the list. It is mediocre. An expensive film executed cheaply based on a flimsy premise.

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luckydube56 said:
THe moments of humor.

TFA is pretty much considered the funniest Star Wars film to date. What world do you live in?

The excellent story. The twists and turns that have not even been revealed in spite of all that has been exposed in the months leading up to last night’s premier. The fact that all expectations were exceeded and that…it was better than TFA.

The rest of this however has me excited as TFA’s plot while good certainly wasn’t anywhere near ESB in terms of how strong or deep it was. If Rogue One could come come close to ESB it would be more than miraculous. The twist and turns thing is only very exciting as I was going into Rogue One expecting it to be straightforward and predictable. Something that TFA unfortunately suffers from.

But let’s not get caught up in early reviews because I remember BvS and Suicide Squads early reviews being good too.

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The Force Awakens is the funniest Star Wars film to date? That comment is funnier than anything in TFA.

Even if what you say were true, I have a feeling that Rogue One is going to easily bump off TFA on that front as well.