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Looks awesome Poita!!

Is this “THAT” print of ESB? The nice unfaded one you’d talked about?

What’s the internal temperature of a TaunTaun? Luke warm.

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I’ve always hoped that a German Krieg der Sterne 35mm print would show up somewhere someday.
I can’t tell you how awesome it is that you have one. 😃

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RU.08 said:

That’s already been covered - no they aren’t. They’re taken using different cameras, and lighting might not be set up for filming, etc.

I remember reading WAY back when those TOPPS cards were released (I’m sure it was in one of the Star Wars monthly magazines) they they were scanned from the same sources as GOUT. So scanned from an actual film print rather than on-set production photographs.

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starwarsfan234 said:

how will this affect adywan’s edit?

This looks like someone who showed up a week late to the joke party. However, based on your post history, I’m guessing you are either clueless or a sock. The former is pretty likely but doesn’t really explain this particular post, so I’m leaning towards the latter.

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TV’s Frink said:

starwarsfan234 said:

how will this affect adywan’s edit?

This looks like someone who showed up a week late to the joke party. However, based on your post history, I’m guessing you are either clueless or a sock. The former is pretty likely but doesn’t really explain this particular post, so I’m leaning towards the latter.

yeah i was tying to be funny and i saw people saying that which was funny so i thought i could be funny too if i said that too. sorry for confuseion. also why are you being rude to me in other threads.

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starwarsfan234 said:

TV’s Frink said:

starwarsfan234 said:

how will this affect adywan’s edit?

This looks like someone who showed up a week late to the joke party. However, based on your post history, I’m guessing you are either clueless or a sock. The former is pretty likely but doesn’t really explain this particular post, so I’m leaning towards the latter.

yeah i was tying to be funny and i saw people saying that which was funny so i thought i could be funny too if i said that too. sorry for confuseion. also why are you being rude to me in other threads.

I’m not sure, but it’s probably because of the posts you are making.

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TV’s Frink said:

starwarsfan234 said:

TV’s Frink said:

starwarsfan234 said:

how will this affect adywan’s edit?

This looks like someone who showed up a week late to the joke party. However, based on your post history, I’m guessing you are either clueless or a sock. The former is pretty likely but doesn’t really explain this particular post, so I’m leaning towards the latter.

yeah i was tying to be funny and i saw people saying that which was funny so i thought i could be funny too if i said that too. sorry for confuseion. also why are you being rude to me in other threads.

I’m not sure, but it’s probably because of the posts you are making.

wahts wrong with them?

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Poita… I’m a little scared you’re going to get mad at me…

It’s a beautiful scan… and I KNOW you’re in the “HOTH IS BLUE NOT WHITE!!” camp… and I know I’m not Dr. Dre… but that entire clip has a strong blue push to it. I’m reencoding it with Avidemux… I’ll post some comparison screenshots when it’s done?

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starwarsfan234 said:

TV’s Frink said:

starwarsfan234 said:

TV’s Frink said:

starwarsfan234 said:

how will this affect adywan’s edit?

This looks like someone who showed up a week late to the joke party. However, based on your post history, I’m guessing you are either clueless or a sock. The former is pretty likely but doesn’t really explain this particular post, so I’m leaning towards the latter.

yeah i was tying to be funny and i saw people saying that which was funny so i thought i could be funny too if i said that too. sorry for confuseion. also why are you being rude to me in other threads.

I’m not sure, but it’s probably because of the posts you are making.

wahts wrong with them?

TV’s Frink, I wonder if you see the irony of you pointing out other’s bad attempts at humor?

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Dreamaster said:

starwarsfan234 said:

TV’s Frink said:

starwarsfan234 said:

TV’s Frink said:

starwarsfan234 said:

how will this affect adywan’s edit?

This looks like someone who showed up a week late to the joke party. However, based on your post history, I’m guessing you are either clueless or a sock. The former is pretty likely but doesn’t really explain this particular post, so I’m leaning towards the latter.

yeah i was tying to be funny and i saw people saying that which was funny so i thought i could be funny too if i said that too. sorry for confuseion. also why are you being rude to me in other threads.

I’m not sure, but it’s probably because of the posts you are making.

wahts wrong with them?

TV’s Frink, I wonder if you see the irony of you pointing out other’s bad attempts at humor?

Hahahahahahaha, you are too much.

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TV’s Frink, I wonder if you see the irony of you pointing out other’s bad attempts at humor?

Hahahahahahaha, you are too much. One of my favorite humorless posters here.

😃 The truth is, you and I are probably more alike than different. It’s like trying to jam two negative magnetic poles together.

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I edited out the “favorite humorless posters” comment because I confused you with someone else.

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TV’s Frink said:

I edited out the “favorite humorless posters” comment because I confused you with someone else.

Now I’m a sad panda. A laughing, but sad panda.

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So… I basically “color corrected by eye” near the end… the first photos with Leia and Chewbacca. Then I rendered it out to see how the rest would look. I like most everything except the Luke in the cave. It’s almost like the sequence that takes place around the interior snowspeeder landing bay and luke getting bashed in the face need a separate correction? I’ll let the pros take it from here. 😃










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TV’s Frink said:

starwarsfan234 said:

how will this affect adywan’s edit?

This looks like someone who showed up a week late to the joke party. However, based on your post history, I’m guessing you are either clueless or a sock. The former is pretty likely but doesn’t really explain this particular post, so I’m leaning towards the latter.

Maybe, but it still made me laugh. (Though I don’t get out much and visit many of the other threads, so perhaps my forum life has been too sheltered to see the bigger picture here.)

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Dreamaster said:

So… I basically “color corrected by eye” near the end… the first photos with Leia and Chewbacca. Then I rendered it out to see how the rest would look. I like most everything except the Luke in the cave. It’s almost like the sequence that takes place around the interior snowspeeder landing bay and luke getting bashed in the face need a separate correction? I’ll let the pros take it from here. 😃

Did you do any DNR on these? Your color-corrected frames appear much less noisy for some reason.
Really like the colors as well by the way.

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pleasehello said:

Dreamaster said:

So… I basically “color corrected by eye” near the end… the first photos with Leia and Chewbacca. Then I rendered it out to see how the rest would look. I like most everything except the Luke in the cave. It’s almost like the sequence that takes place around the interior snowspeeder landing bay and luke getting bashed in the face need a separate correction? I’ll let the pros take it from here. 😃

Did you do any DNR on these? Your color-corrected frames appear much less noisy for some reason.
Really like the colors as well by the way.

Aye… I used the Mplayer Denoise 3D HQ filter as well as the Asharp filter. I probably shouldn’t have done that for these comparisons but I really like what they do personally. 😃 And thanks Will and Please!

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I did a little compare with the TN1 Grindhouse and while this is not true across the board, in select shots it seems as though there is some more detail to be had in the dark areas. Take princess Leia’s hair below for example:


Is there any more range in the German scan to pull out some of those details?

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Dreamaster said:

Poita… I’m a little scared you’re going to get mad at me…

It’s a beautiful scan… and I KNOW you’re in the “HOTH IS BLUE NOT WHITE!!” camp… and I know I’m not Dr. Dre… but that entire clip has a strong blue push to it. I’m reencoding it with Avidemux… I’ll post some comparison screenshots when it’s done?

Nah, I never get mad, always like to get constructive feedback.
There was no colour correction done to the Reel, it was just a test with the scanning light adjusted with an offset to counter the fade.
There are plenty of scenes where the snow is very blue, I’m not in that camp as such, it is just a fact when you watch the few unfaded prints that are left projected.

I’ll do a correction on the reels later, it is slow going at the moment scraping enough together for cleaning and scanning. Once that is done I can sit down in a screening room and correct to the print.

One interesting thing, a lot of the comp scenes are very dirty, but the dirt was in the comp, not the print itself. The dirt is identical in all prints, so it leaves one with the philosophical question of do you leave the dirt in. It was absolutely there in the theatrical release, and was part of the limitations of the tech at the time. It is also absolutely horrendous at times, it shows how different audience expectation was at the time that it was never mentioned in any reviews etc.
Check out the probe droid scene when it first rises up out of the crater and flies to the left of screen as an example of this.

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pleasehello said:

I did a little compare with the TN1 Grindhouse and while this is not true across the board, in select shots it seems as though there is some more detail to be had in the dark areas. Take princess Leia’s hair below for example:


Is there any more range in the German scan to pull out some of those details?

Boosting the image of the German scan to Hoth take a look…

I’d say yes, there is a lot more shadow detail in this scan than in the grindhouse releas.

However, that scene should be dark with Leia’s face being the focal point, lit against the shadow, but yes, there is more detail in the print if you dig it out.
Remember the reel I posted has not been corrected.

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