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JediSage
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A Big Debate for the New Century
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14-Apr-2005, 1:44 AM
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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
Coming in a little bit late here...

"3- Does the complex almost mathematical code in DNA have a natural (random, blind) order?"

Sounds like someone's not heard of the "Golden Ratio" or "Fibonacci Numbers".

"The only "proof" I've ever seen was a poster on the wall in my grade-school science classroom of a long line of apes starting at the beginning of time, each one standing more erect than the other. Perhaps when they find this year's missing link?"

With all due respect, the lack of proof you've seen lies more in your lack of experience with it, rather than any perceived lack of said proof. This line of reasoning is like closing your eyes at an intersection, so you could tell the traffic cop that you didn't see the red light. Now, this is not to say that the proof is 100% definitive, but there is plenty to see, should you so choose to study it.

"For instance, the case in Georgia where the school board wanted to put stickers on the text books stating that evolution is a theory, and that many people consider it to be flawed."

Which is ironic, because as much as I am an evolutionist, I have no problem with this statement at all. It is still a theory, regardless of how well supported it is. I don't think there's a God pulling the strings, but there's still a whole universe of knowledge that we don't have access to. Who knows - Douglas Adams could be right.

"Have you guys heard the news that some scientists are questioning whether the spead of light is even a constant? These are secular scientist and they have been studying this and researching it and they think that Einstien was wrong about the speed of light being a constant."

Well, I don't know about light going faster, but light can be slowed down.

"Same with evolution. He likes to think that evolution still happened over the course of the number of years that scientists believe it to have happened but that the Bible refers to that entire process as a "day."

I liked it. Seemed to work for me."


What did he say about the process of dinosaurs?


I'd be interested in reading the Golden Ratio..I'm curious as to how blind forces can account for the staggering amount of information in a single sequence of DNA. Kind of like the "if you put 100 monkeys (or was it Homo Erectus?) at a type writer for a couple of hundred years you'd eventually get Shakespeare" example.

As far as the "proof" of evolution, I accept your challenge to study it (already have to some extent). Thankfully I won't be doing it in a university because there it's already case closed. I will say that commonality does not necessarily translate to a single point of origin-ie: There are 5 buildings made of concrete, did they evolve from the sidewalk?

I'm glad you're open to the"sticker" on the book idea. I'm curious, would you be open to teaching alternative theories to evolution in the classroom so long as they are taught as theory? It is regrettable that generations of indoctrination can't be undone, ie: Telling people that the Miller "primordial seas" experiment was a joke.

A parable: A man and his son are walking down the street. The boy looks at a huge building and says "Wow, how did that building get here dad?" "Well son, a lot of people in construction crews, and civil engineers, and building managers built that building". A little while later they come to a suspension bridge "Wow! How did this bridge get here dad?" "Well son, again it was construction people, engineers, and the like". "How did we get here dad?" "Well, by accident son".