Project #4K77 — Page 16

I wouldn’t mind either! your work is looking great!

Williarob said:
I’m thinking I might abandon the DNR version…
…Would anybody here be too upset?

I was going to suggest sticking to a non-DNR version, so that’s fine by me.

Chewtobacca said:

Williarob said:
I’m thinking I might abandon the DNR version…
…Would anybody here be too upset?

I was going to suggest sticking to a non-DNR version, so that’s fine by me.

same here. with the DNR version, there would be just too much headache of constantly double checking for cleaned up detail that should not have been cleaned up. “give it to us raw…”! 😃

Side me also with the people not interested in a DNR version. The grain is not our enemy.

Maybe some light discretionary grain removal though? SSE had bits that almost looked like television snow. Honor the spirit without hewing so rigidly to the letter, is what I’m saying.

agreed^

joefavs said:

Maybe some light discretionary grain removal though? SSE had bits that almost looked like television snow. Honor the spirit without hewing so rigidly to the letter, is what I’m saying.

I agree with this… the Tatooine scenes… it’s not “film grain” we’re seeing there. Please consider at least doing the “glob removal” on those scenes.

Williarob said:

Dreamaster said:

joefavs said:

Maybe some light discretionary grain removal though? SSE had bits that almost looked like television snow. Honor the spirit without hewing so rigidly to the letter, is what I’m saying.

I agree with this… the Tatooine scenes… it’s not “film grain” we’re seeing there. Please consider at least doing the “glob removal” on those scenes.

OK, when I get there I’ll give you some samples and you can all argue over which way to go at that point…

You rock!

Williarob said:

Cool. No more DNR version then.

I’m personally not very interested in the DNR version myself, but I noticed some heavy grain in one of the previews when it cut to an effects shot. It might possibly bother some people.

Whilst I’m no fan of overuse of DNR to the point where it removes elements of the shot - I would really like a DNR version of Star Wars. The DNR side of that comparison video looks terrific.

Wow fellows, loved the video samples.

Dre. Really appreciate seeing the rebel soldiers Blue shirts again, and that sample is very much Technicolor-Like. Nice!

Looking forward also Williarob, to seeing a slightly reduced DNR sample, like the other forum members have mentioned here.

“Blackout”, Thanks for the comparison video, you can really see the difference in there.

dahmage said:

Chewtobacca said:

Williarob said:
I’m thinking I might abandon the DNR version…
…Would anybody here be too upset?

I was going to suggest sticking to a non-DNR version, so that’s fine by me.

same here. with the DNR version, there would be just too much headache of constantly double checking for cleaned up detail that should not have been cleaned up. “give it to us raw…”! 😃

a quick retrospect, is the blockiness of the smokey scenes a result of the encoding, or is that inherent in the scan, and something only DNR cleans up?

Blackout said:

Maybe a little late, but here’s a video showcasing the different look of the DNR and non-DNR versions: https://youtu.be/duseGCZO6C0

at 360p i can’t tell a difference between the two 😦

joefavs said:

I’m very much interested in the DNR version, but what I’ve seen of the grainy one looks like I could live with it easily. It’s hard to tell having only seen stuff from the first reel, though. There were swaths of the SSE where the grain was just out of control, IMO, and that really hampered my ability to enjoy it. Authenticity is well and good, but at a certain point it just doesn’t look good when you’re watching it on a screen.

I agree with this. Not that SSE really needed to be altered, it’s just the nature of that print which makes it that extra step away from ‘authentic’.

For 4K, I wouldn’t mind the idea of a reasonably managed grain version (similar to really well done commercial blu-rays where there is still good visible grain), but the samples, as good as they looked, were a little too clean. I think focus on the main version is the way to go.

I personally really liked the idea of a (carefully done) DNR’d version. However, the non-DNR version still looks fantastic and I’m fine with a DNR version being done afterwards as a supplemental thing, or done by someone else.

The latest remasters of Goodfellas and Dog Day Afternoon both have a very tasteful amount of grain, IMO. Those may be good examples of DNR done right for those who seem suspicious of the process in general.