That’s an abstract problem, and one that isn’t nearly as relevant given the sale of LFL to Disney. The continued unavailability of a proper release of the OOT is a continuing concrete problem, one that Disney so far has been content to acquiesce in.
“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”
It’s only ten years since you saw the theatrical version officially released there are worse cases where it’s happened for longer certain versions of films being either lost or denied or even acknowleged.
That does not make it right but it’s not the end of the world.
Ten years? That’s just since LFL gave the world GOUT. It’s been 20 years since there was an official home-video release of the OOT at the quality levels expected of contemporary home video technology.
And “others do it” is not a valid excuse for chucking the OOT off a cliff.
“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”
I am not saying It’s a good thing. But I am saying that Star Wars is not the only film to have been given this sort of treatment.
It does not make it right but these things unfortunately happen for various reasons to films. But It never really needed to happen to Star Wars which I think is the sad part about it.
It’s the most important series of films that this has happened to.
It’s probably the most mainstream massively popular movies it’s happened to. It is important.
There is a lot of important films that this has happened to for different reasons.
No it’s Lucas’s contempt of us that is the problem. This has been the biggest problem ever since ROTJ was in production. Name me just ONE franchise where the creators treats their fanbase THIS poorly for THIS long.
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It’s probably the most mainstream massively popular movies it’s happened to. It is important.
There is a lot of important films that this has happened to for different reasons.
And it’s not a good thing that it happens at all. But if we all succumbed to the same fatalism, we wouldn’t have things like the mostly-complete print of Fritz Lang’s Metropolis, or the long-missing second reel of the Spanish Dracula.
Fortunately, we have film historians who fight against the ravages of time by unearthing such treasures. And in our own case, people like Harmy and even Team Negative1 have preserved history by recreating the OOT, in the teeth of George Lucas’ attempt to squelch his own creation using the might of copyright law.
“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”
George Lucas and his family are still bitter at Disney for making a better version of Ep. VII, and the fans for liking it better than the prequels. So I would contempt is a strong component of his personality in his behavior towards other people.
George Lucas and his family are still bitter at Disney for making a better version of Ep. VII
Better than what?
“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”
I assume better than his discarded story ideas.
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That’s an assumption, not an answer. And with a man as slippery as George Lucas - who makes “experimental films” in private that have so far never been publicly seen - it’s a fair question.
“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”
That’s an assumption, not an answer. And with a man as slippery as George Lucas - who makes “experimental films” in private that have so far never been publicly seen - it’s a fair question.
I always found that to be a bullshit excuse from Lucas. To me he has zero interest in “experimental films” and more interest in milking the same franchise too many times to count. He is a man with very limited scope who claims to be avant-garde when he is nothing more than a lucky idiot. He’s bitter because he couldn’t remake his beloved Flash Gordon and had to use his brain to make something original. Then he became even more resentful when smarter people could make better films than him, so he fired everyone who made the franchise great, and made four bad films that are still today black marks for Star wars fans. The only silver lining he got out of this is the merchandising, which was his true calling all along.
If nothing happens to change the present state of affairs, that will indeed be the judgment of history. Sad.
“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”
That’s an assumption, not an answer. And with a man as slippery as George Lucas - who makes “experimental films” in private that have so far never been publicly seen - it’s a fair question.
I always found that to be a bullshit excuse from Lucas. To me he has zero interest in “experimental films” and more interest in milking the same franchise too many times to count. He is a man with very limited scope who claims to be avant-garde when he is nothing more than a lucky idiot. He’s bitter because he couldn’t remake his beloved Flash Gordon and had to use his brain to make something original. Then he became even more resentful when smarter people could make better films than him, so he fired everyone who made the franchise great, and made four bad films that are still today black marks for Star wars fans. The only silver lining he got out of this is the merchandising, which was his true calling all along.
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That’s an assumption, not an answer. And with a man as slippery as George Lucas - who makes “experimental films” in private that have so far never been publicly seen - it’s a fair question.
I always found that to be a bullshit excuse from Lucas. To me he has zero interest in “experimental films” and more interest in milking the same franchise too many times to count. He is a man with very limited scope who claims to be avant-garde when he is nothing more than a lucky idiot. He’s bitter because he couldn’t remake his beloved Flash Gordon and had to use his brain to make something original. Then he became even more resentful when smarter people could make better films than him, so he fired everyone who made the franchise great, and made four bad films that are still today black marks for Star wars fans. The only silver lining he got out of this is the merchandising, which was his true calling all along.
In other words george lucas had too big of an ego and clout at the time and probable thought he was the best writer in the world. which is too bad because jedi and the prequels would have been great. If he didn’t have a bunch of yes men who didn’t have the balls to question all of the problems with the scripts. Though the only thing i do really like about jedi is han didn’t die like Harrison ford wanted,the emperor and maybe some other things but that’s it.
That’s an assumption, not an answer. And with a man as slippery as George Lucas - who makes “experimental films” in private that have so far never been publicly seen - it’s a fair question.
I always found that to be a bullshit excuse from Lucas. To me he has zero interest in “experimental films” and more interest in milking the same franchise too many times to count. He is a man with very limited scope who claims to be avant-garde when he is nothing more than a lucky idiot. He’s bitter because he couldn’t remake his beloved Flash Gordon and had to use his brain to make something original. Then he became even more resentful when smarter people could make better films than him, so he fired everyone who made the franchise great, and made four bad films that are still today black marks for Star wars fans. The only silver lining he got out of this is the merchandising, which was his true calling all along.
In other words george lucas had too big of an ego and clout at the time and probable thought he was the best writer in the world. which is too bad because jedi and the prequels would have been great. If he didn’t have a bunch of yes men who didn’t have the balls to question all of the problems with the scripts. Though the only thing i do really like about jedi is han didn’t die like Harrison ford wanted,the emperor and maybe some other things but that’s it.
But still he shouldn’t have taken out his frustrations on his fans like this. The franchise has been ruined ten times longer than it was good.
That’s an assumption, not an answer. And with a man as slippery as George Lucas - who makes “experimental films” in private that have so far never been publicly seen - it’s a fair question.
I always found that to be a bullshit excuse from Lucas. To me he has zero interest in “experimental films” and more interest in milking the same franchise too many times to count. He is a man with very limited scope who claims to be avant-garde when he is nothing more than a lucky idiot. He’s bitter because he couldn’t remake his beloved Flash Gordon and had to use his brain to make something original. Then he became even more resentful when smarter people could make better films than him, so he fired everyone who made the franchise great, and made four bad films that are still today black marks for Star wars fans. The only silver lining he got out of this is the merchandising, which was his true calling all along.
In other words george lucas had too big of an ego and clout at the time and probable thought he was the best writer in the world. which is too bad because jedi and the prequels would have been great. If he didn’t have a bunch of yes men who didn’t have the balls to question all of the problems with the scripts. Though the only thing i do really like about jedi is han didn’t die like Harrison ford wanted,the emperor and maybe some other things but that’s it.
But still he shouldn’t have taken out his frustrations on his fans like this. The franchise has been ruined ten times longer than it was good.
I know right i wish someone had the balls to stand up to him and tell him this wasn’t going to work. Me i think if jedi and 1,2,3 were ether miniseries or seasons with each season being these four episodes it would have had room to breath.
That’s an assumption, not an answer. And with a man as slippery as George Lucas - who makes “experimental films” in private that have so far never been publicly seen - it’s a fair question.
I always found that to be a bullshit excuse from Lucas. To me he has zero interest in “experimental films” and more interest in milking the same franchise too many times to count. He is a man with very limited scope who claims to be avant-garde when he is nothing more than a lucky idiot. He’s bitter because he couldn’t remake his beloved Flash Gordon and had to use his brain to make something original. Then he became even more resentful when smarter people could make better films than him, so he fired everyone who made the franchise great, and made four bad films that are still today black marks for Star wars fans. The only silver lining he got out of this is the merchandising, which was his true calling all along.
In other words george lucas had too big of an ego and clout at the time and probable thought he was the best writer in the world. which is too bad because jedi and the prequels would have been great. If he didn’t have a bunch of yes men who didn’t have the balls to question all of the problems with the scripts. Though the only thing i do really like about jedi is han didn’t die like Harrison ford wanted,the emperor and maybe some other things but that’s it.
But still he shouldn’t have taken out his frustrations on his fans like this. The franchise has been ruined ten times longer than it was good.
I know right i wish someone had the balls to stand up to him and tell him this wasn’t going to work. Me i think if jedi and 1,2,3 were ether miniseries or seasons with each season being these four episodes it would have had room to breath.
There wasn’t enough story in the prequels to cover even one movie. Jedi really isn’t that bad either, but if they just didn’t fire Kurtz years earlier, we would’ve had a perfect trilogy.
Yes but now the Landscape is different.
Lucusfilm are not trying to push their digital graphics technologies. They if anything are investing in alternate tech like AR and VR tech. Their business really has nothing to do with a film made in 1977 anymore. It’s Evolved way beyond 1977.
It’s time to show some more humble roots.
The Special Edition is just another Brick in wall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR5ApYxkU-U
“The ideas of conformity in revolution inherent in the song are exemplified to a large extent in the accompanying film footage. Although the children in the second verse sing lyrics of personal rebellion, their unified singing coupled with their symmetrical seating in the film are as eeriely structured as when they march down the hall in lockstep rhythm. Despite their rebellious intentions, they have become just as homogeneous as when they were school clones. Furthermore, like the dual nature of the hammers, what begins as a productive revolution (the regaining of individuality) turns into destructive violence as the children destroy their school and create a funeral pyre for their teacher with the instruments of their past educational repression.”
Dude I love Pink Floyd too but it’s really not relevant here.
That’s an assumption, not an answer. And with a man as slippery as George Lucas - who makes “experimental films” in private that have so far never been publicly seen - it’s a fair question.
I always found that to be a bullshit excuse from Lucas. To me he has zero interest in “experimental films” and more interest in milking the same franchise too many times to count. He is a man with very limited scope who claims to be avant-garde when he is nothing more than a lucky idiot. He’s bitter because he couldn’t remake his beloved Flash Gordon and had to use his brain to make something original. Then he became even more resentful when smarter people could make better films than him, so he fired everyone who made the franchise great, and made four bad films that are still today black marks for Star wars fans. The only silver lining he got out of this is the merchandising, which was his true calling all along.
In other words george lucas had too big of an ego and clout at the time and probable thought he was the best writer in the world. which is too bad because jedi and the prequels would have been great. If he didn’t have a bunch of yes men who didn’t have the balls to question all of the problems with the scripts. Though the only thing i do really like about jedi is han didn’t die like Harrison ford wanted,the emperor and maybe some other things but that’s it.
But still he shouldn’t have taken out his frustrations on his fans like this. The franchise has been ruined ten times longer than it was good.
I know right i wish someone had the balls to stand up to him and tell him this wasn’t going to work. Me i think if jedi and 1,2,3 were ether miniseries or seasons with each season being these four episodes it would have had room to breath.
There wasn’t enough story in the prequels to cover even one movie. Jedi really isn’t that bad either, but if they just didn’t fire Kurtz years earlier, we would’ve had a perfect trilogy.
What do you mean not much of a story you have the emperor obi wan,Anakin,the Jedi order the clone war,the rise of the empire it just was plotted out,written and executed etc. horribly that’s all. If it was done the way Lucas was trying come across or something similar and by that i mean the fall of Anakin way it was intended to come across. It would have made Vader’s death more meaningful what we got was effects over story. 😦 But my point is still valid the back story done right would have added more to the original trilogy instead of what we got. In the end your right if the producer of a new hope and empire didn’t leave we would have had two epic trilogies.
That’s an assumption, not an answer. And with a man as slippery as George Lucas - who makes “experimental films” in private that have so far never been publicly seen - it’s a fair question.
I always found that to be a bullshit excuse from Lucas. To me he has zero interest in “experimental films” and more interest in milking the same franchise too many times to count. He is a man with very limited scope who claims to be avant-garde when he is nothing more than a lucky idiot. He’s bitter because he couldn’t remake his beloved Flash Gordon and had to use his brain to make something original. Then he became even more resentful when smarter people could make better films than him, so he fired everyone who made the franchise great, and made four bad films that are still today black marks for Star wars fans. The only silver lining he got out of this is the merchandising, which was his true calling all along.
In other words george lucas had too big of an ego and clout at the time and probable thought he was the best writer in the world. which is too bad because jedi and the prequels would have been great. If he didn’t have a bunch of yes men who didn’t have the balls to question all of the problems with the scripts. Though the only thing i do really like about jedi is han didn’t die like Harrison ford wanted,the emperor and maybe some other things but that’s it.
But still he shouldn’t have taken out his frustrations on his fans like this. The franchise has been ruined ten times longer than it was good.
I know right i wish someone had the balls to stand up to him and tell him this wasn’t going to work. Me i think if jedi and 1,2,3 were ether miniseries or seasons with each season being these four episodes it would have had room to breath.
There wasn’t enough story in the prequels to cover even one movie. Jedi really isn’t that bad either, but if they just didn’t fire Kurtz years earlier, we would’ve had a perfect trilogy.
What do you mean not much of a story you have the emperor obi wan,Anakin,the Jedi order the clone war,the rise of the empire it just was plotted out,written and executed etc. horribly that’s all. If it was done the way Lucas was trying come across or something similar and by that i mean the fall of Anakin way it was intended to come across. It would have made Vader’s death more meaningful what we got was effects over story. 😦 But my point is still valid the back story done right would have added more to the original trilogy instead of what we got. In the end your right if the producer of a new hope and empire didn’t leave we would have had two epic trilogies.
Ok maybe the PT could have been good. But the shape of the franchise works against creating a prequel trilogy; when Star Wars came out in 1977 Lucas had no clue he even would make a film trilogy, or even that the film would be the fourth episode. Star Wars feels like the starting point of the franchise, instead of a middle chapter like Lucas insists. I don’t believe he ever had an outline for a three film story, or even had the intelligence to create richly detailed universe with its own mythology.
What does this franchise even have now? Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, and little else. And now Disney is polluting the franchise with middle of the road cookie cutter product.
That’s an assumption, not an answer. And with a man as slippery as George Lucas - who makes “experimental films” in private that have so far never been publicly seen - it’s a fair question.
I always found that to be a bullshit excuse from Lucas. To me he has zero interest in “experimental films” and more interest in milking the same franchise too many times to count. He is a man with very limited scope who claims to be avant-garde when he is nothing more than a lucky idiot. He’s bitter because he couldn’t remake his beloved Flash Gordon and had to use his brain to make something original. Then he became even more resentful when smarter people could make better films than him, so he fired everyone who made the franchise great, and made four bad films that are still today black marks for Star wars fans. The only silver lining he got out of this is the merchandising, which was his true calling all along.
In other words george lucas had too big of an ego and clout at the time and probable thought he was the best writer in the world. which is too bad because jedi and the prequels would have been great. If he didn’t have a bunch of yes men who didn’t have the balls to question all of the problems with the scripts. Though the only thing i do really like about jedi is han didn’t die like Harrison ford wanted,the emperor and maybe some other things but that’s it.
But still he shouldn’t have taken out his frustrations on his fans like this. The franchise has been ruined ten times longer than it was good.
I know right i wish someone had the balls to stand up to him and tell him this wasn’t going to work. Me i think if jedi and 1,2,3 were ether miniseries or seasons with each season being these four episodes it would have had room to breath.
There wasn’t enough story in the prequels to cover even one movie. Jedi really isn’t that bad either, but if they just didn’t fire Kurtz years earlier, we would’ve had a perfect trilogy.
What do you mean not much of a story you have the emperor obi wan,Anakin,the Jedi order the clone war,the rise of the empire it just was plotted out,written and executed etc. horribly that’s all. If it was done the way Lucas was trying come across or something similar and by that i mean the fall of Anakin way it was intended to come across. It would have made Vader’s death more meaningful what we got was effects over story. 😦 But my point is still valid the back story done right would have added more to the original trilogy instead of what we got. In the end your right if the producer of a new hope and empire didn’t leave we would have had two epic trilogies.
Ok maybe the PT could have been good. But the shape of the franchise works against creating a prequel trilogy; when Star Wars came out in 1977 Lucas had no clue he even would make a film trilogy, or even that the film would be the fourth episode. Star Wars feels like the starting point of the franchise, instead of a middle chapter like Lucas insists. I don’t believe he ever had an outline for a three film story, or even had the intelligence to create richly detailed universe with its own mythology.
What does this franchise even have now? Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, and little else. And now Disney is polluting the franchise with middle of the road cookie cutter product.
He did have the prequel trilogy planned out sometime in the 80s but the story he had planned he completely changed and for the record the backstory was mentioned in the first film. But you’re right at that time the prequels were not even a thought but the prequel story was there the clone wars the fall of the jedi etc. and if done right it would have given the original trilogy more weight if you ask me. Ps. star wars rebels the canon comics novels etc. aren’t bad i don’t know about episode 7 haven’t seen it and it sounds like rouge one might be a really good movie.
Found that post over at the bluray.com Forum: http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=12854783&postcount=3883 No Word of theatrical or Special Edition but it makes me optimistic that we finally get something new and special next year for the 40th anniversary. Cant stand that old Lowry Master with the weird Colors anymore!
By “day one” I’m assuming he means right after he was hired in May of 2014.
This thread was started only two months later.