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Really looking good Dre, I think you’re getting to a point that we couldn’t ask for much more.
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Those regrades are excellent.
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Really looking good Dre, I think you’re getting to a point that we couldn’t ask for much more.
I can ask for more but I’m very unreasonable.
Really looking good Dre, I think you’re getting to a point that we couldn’t ask for much more.
Agreed. Superb grading; Looking forward to other reel examples to come!
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Here’s an update on the color grading to remove the remaining green/yellow cast:
DrDre, everything looks pretty great so far, although I was wondering about this shot. Most of the stars here appear to be crushed out. Is that just a by-product of the degraining process? The star field is slightly more visible on the non-DNR video sample, although it is still not as visible as the Silver Screen Edition, just for comparison, so I was also curious if perhaps the contrast needs to be dialed back a bit.
I know this is still a work in progress, so again, just wondering…
Thanks!
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Williarob is the one to ask, as I’m only focussing on color. He’s the one who’s doing all the hard work…
Here’s a first example of the warmer color grading.
Before:
After:
Here’s a first example of the warmer color grading.
Before:
After:
The difference is very subtle, but 3PO now looks more golden whereas in the previous shot he looked somewhat copper-y.
Very subtle indeed, but I like the look.
This warmer regrade also adds back the slight mint tint back to the walls. Need to see the impact on skin tones but thinking you might have found the sweet spot.
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Just discovered this today. Amazing. Haven’t read the thread yet so forgive me if it’s been said, but I really hope ESB and ROTJ are planned to get similar treatment too! There’s been so many outright amazing projects on the original film in recent years sometimes it feels like the sequels are almost forgotten.
Nevertheless, GREAT JOB!!! Can’t wait to see the finished project. I really need a raise so I can start upgrading my equipment to both get and watch all this new stuff! I still have to trek over to a friends house just to burn a single layer BD…
Just discovered this today. Amazing. Haven’t read the thread yet so forgive me if it’s been said, but I really hope ESB and ROTJ are planned to get similar treatment too! There’s been so many outright amazing projects on the original film in recent years sometimes it feels like the sequels are almost forgotten.
Nevertheless, GREAT JOB!!! Can’t wait to see the finished project. I really need a raise so I can start upgrading my equipment to both get and watch all this new stuff! I still have to trek over to a friends house just to burn a single layer BD…
We (the community, not myself personally) have some incredible sources for projects like these for Star Wars, but not as many stellar sources for Empire or Return.
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Actually I was planning to work on Jedi in 4K before this project, but I’m still waiting on the scans. Figured I’d make a start on this while I wait. Jedi should be a relatively quick project because we have several good scans and much of it is very very clean. If those scans arrive before I finish this project, I’ll probably work on Jedi and knock that out first, then come back to this later.
Empire on the other hand will require considerably more work. Perhaps Poita or somebody has a better print, but I don’t have access to any great scans of Empire at the moment.
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Here’s an update on the color grading to remove the remaining green/yellow cast:
DrDre, everything looks pretty great so far, although I was wondering about this shot. Most of the stars here appear to be crushed out. Is that just a by-product of the degraining process? The star field is slightly more visible on the non-DNR video sample, although it is still not as visible as the Silver Screen Edition, just for comparison, so I was also curious if perhaps the contrast needs to be dialed back a bit.
I know this is still a work in progress, so again, just wondering…
Thanks!
This is not a by-product of the cleanup, the de-graining or the color correction. I checked the raw scan and this particular print just doesn’t have such bright stars in this shot. It may come down to which do you prefer - a sharper star destroyer with more detail or brighter stars. Unless I can combine the two prints together somehow, or separate the star field into a new layer and restore it separately… I’ll have to experiment.
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Actually I was planning to work on Jedi in 4K before this project, but I’m still waiting on the scans. Figured I’d make a start on this while I wait. Jedi should be a relatively quick project because we have several good scans and much of it is very very clean. If those scans arrive before I finish this project, I’ll probably work on Jedi and knock that out first, then come back to this later.
Empire on the other hand will require considerably more work. Perhaps Poita or somebody has a better print, but I don’t have access to any great scans of Empire at the moment.
I was afraid you’d say that. TESB is the one most in need of a proper restoration.
Here’s the complete set of warmer regrades:
Wow… it’s like I’m really there.
Ol’ George has the GOUT, I see.
Williarob said:
Empire on the other hand will require considerably more work. Perhaps Poita or somebody has a better print, but I don’t have access to any great scans of Empire at the moment.
A color corrected grindhouse would suffice for awhile.
Williarob said:
Empire on the other hand will require considerably more work. Perhaps Poita or somebody has a better print, but I don’t have access to any great scans of Empire at the moment.A color corrected grindhouse would suffice for awhile.
The problem with that print though is that the colors are all over the place. Even within a single shot the colors flare from green to red often with parts of the same frame being wildly different. The fact is that the Grindhouse ESB has already been color corrected. TN1 spent months correcting the colors to make it look as good as it does, but short of photoshopping every single frame individually it’s just not going to get much better.
What I will do though, is go back to -1’s original 35mm ESB - the reels that are completely faded to red and that we really haven’t even looked at since about 2012 - and see if Dre’s tools can do anything for them.
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Just discovered this today. Amazing. Haven’t read the thread yet so forgive me if it’s been said, but I really hope ESB and ROTJ are planned to get similar treatment too! There’s been so many outright amazing projects on the original film in recent years sometimes it feels like the sequels are almost forgotten.
Nevertheless, GREAT JOB!!! Can’t wait to see the finished project. I really need a raise so I can start upgrading my equipment to both get and watch all this new stuff! I still have to trek over to a friends house just to burn a single layer BD…
I could be wrong, but I think Poita is the next port of call for a good ESB restoration. He’s already got some terrific tests up on his own thread.
Just discovered this today. Amazing. Haven’t read the thread yet so forgive me if it’s been said, but I really hope ESB and ROTJ are planned to get similar treatment too! There’s been so many outright amazing projects on the original film in recent years sometimes it feels like the sequels are almost forgotten.
Nevertheless, GREAT JOB!!! Can’t wait to see the finished project. I really need a raise so I can start upgrading my equipment to both get and watch all this new stuff! I still have to trek over to a friends house just to burn a single layer BD…
I could be wrong, but I think Poita is the next port of call for a good ESB restoration. He’s already got some terrific tests up on his own thread.
Let’s hope so! I just went back to the drive with the original ESB scan on it and it just died. One minute it was readable and I was checking out the scans, the next it’s making some mechanical grinding noises and, well that’s that. Can’t run any diagnostics on it because it no longer shows up as a connected drive (tried multiple ways). Probably the control arm is stuck. I doubt you’ll be surprised to learn that it was a cheap Seagate drive. Also on there was the original LPP scan, but I had backups of that. I didn’t have backups of the ESB files (though other people do). So, I guess I won’t be testing out Dre’s tools on that scan any time soon. It might not matter though. I don’t actually know which scan was used for the Grindhouse version so it might well have been this one.
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Dammit, that’s sad news.Can the data still be copied? There are companies who can do it in the case you will find that nobody else has something